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A local honda mechanic told me that insights have little power. He has heard of people having to turn there ac off to get a good starting speed. Not for sure if i want to buy one or not.??????
 

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Utter tripe, they have ample power for everyday use, drive one (a manual) & you can make you own decision.
 

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hrmmmmm

sounds like someone is trying to "stir the pot".
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If you read many posts in this forum, you will find that some Insight drivers do things that may appear abnormal such as only using the A/C when going downhill or turning off the A/C before stopping at a red light. They mostly do this to maximize fuel economy (to strive for the best they can do)...It is true that the A/C does take some slight acceration power away (nearly all cars do to some degree) but it is nothing that I would be concerned about. Even though this car has a small engine, it can still do 112 MPH and that is speed limited (I'm not saying you should drive that fast though). It will not have the 0-60 times of some newer cars. I think the MT is 10.8 seconds and the CVT is 11.2 seconds. Check out:
http://www.albeedigital.com/supercoupe/articles/0-60times.html
While there are many cars that beat the Insight in acceleration, You will find several cars listed that over the past years where advertised as fast but end up in the same class as the Insight. In today's standards, the Insight would not be rated as a fast car but that is because a majority of the automobile industry targeted at the US put there efforts into acceleration speed and not better fuel economy and emmission levels.

The best answer is to test drive an Insight (either the MT or CVT) and see if you feel comfortable with it. You can search this forum and find manys topics that explain the detailed differences between the MT (manual transmission)and CVT (automatic transmission that changes ratios instead of gears). Besides the transmission, the main differences between them are fuel economy, emissions output and IMA battery management.

Both Insight models (MT and CVT) are cleverly designed and I won't say what one is best because each potential buyer may have a differenet interest in what they like in a car.

JoeCVT - Just your average CVT owner
 

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From a removed multipost mojoe wrote as a follow up to this thread:

mojoe said:
Thanks for all the tips, I guess the mechanic here in the area doesn't see many Insights, making comments like the insights are slow. I'm not a speed demon just like to stay stady in traffic. Sorry to stir the pot, I'm still looking and interested in buying a insight. Another question, whats the ride like on the early insights, is it simi smooth or do you feel alot of bumps like an old sports car??? Thanks Joe
 

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Compared to a CRX it feels like a Lexus, Compared to a Lexus it feels like a CRX. :D

The rear springs are soft. I'm about 165 and drive solo most of the time, and have no problem bottoming out. If I'm carrying an overweight passenger and a bunch of heavy tool boxes in the back, my high beams will be shining in the trees. ;) Two options discussed in the forum are spacer shims for the back springs and stiffer back springs.

The steering is responsive and the aluminum body is very rigid with a low moment of inertia. This makes for sporty handling. I figure this handling and a guardian angel (thank you), got me through a tight squeeze on two occasions. One occasion was with 3 deer and once was between an oncoming tractor-trailer truck around a corner, and a sheer stone cliff. However, for the same reason, the Insight will not tollerate distracted or dozing pilots.
 

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Kip, Thanks for the info on the cars handling, it sounds like the sterring is very tight not alot of play. Joe
 

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to easily Summarize this - "Local mechanics are idiots". How likely are they to recommend something that they are not likely to work on? Consider the source. I use to ehar the same crap about Boxsters not being "Porshes" but not one person who said that EVER drove one themselves. Ignorance is bliss.

Comparisons:
I also own a BMW M3 and YES, that has more power but gets 27 MPG on the freeway and about 20 city.
My Honda ST1100 motorcycle is also faster than my Insight
I just sold a Honda CBR1100XX and that had 2 /12X the horsepower of my Insight and will outrun ANY factory car up to 120 mph, even the $1M Bugatti

Bottom line: If you want fast you'll pay for it. Everything is a compromise. I choose the drive the Insight for a few reasons: gas mileage (getting 60 easily), it's a Honda so cost of ownership is about as low as it gets, it is surprisingly comfy (I'm 6'3"), and fun to drive.

As for the comment about speed, he's dead wrong. This is more than adequate to enter any freeway and flies at 70+ mph anytime you want it to as long as you're willing to forgo gas efficiency
 

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Which gear were you in Dougie? :lol:
 

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and getting about 40 mpg too! not too shabby.
 

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The power/acceleration thing also depends a lot on how you drive. The Insight is very high-geared: it doesn't accelerate very well at all in 5th, and isn't much better in 4th. On the other hand, it's quite happy being dropped into 3rd at freeway speeds. Going up Sunol and Altamont passes (in SF Bay area), I will generally be doing 70-80 in 3rd, and getting over 50 mpg.

At lights, I often find that I'm a dozen car lengths down the road before the cars in the other lanes are even into the intersection - and this is just my normal driving, not even close to full-throttle.

Bottom line is that the Insight has all the power it really needs, though for mountain driving it could use another gear or two between 2nd and 3rd. If you live in flatter country, you shouldn't have any problems at all.
 

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b1shmu63 said:
Compared to a CRX it feels like a Lexus, Compared to a Lexus it feels like a CRX. :D
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thats the best way to put it

i also agree about the handling...

personally i am very happy with the ride comfort, even w/ 40 psi in the tires...and its very light and "jumpy" on the steering, honestly almost too much, its tough to drive with just one hand...and you CANNOT space out, or you will go off the road easily...but i certainly dont mind if it means i can steer it easily

plus, it is very fast, considering the gas mileage...yes, the gas engine only has 70hp, but the electric motor is very powerful, and i have never had a problem with getting it up to highway speed on any normal sized entrance ramp
 

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I do, but that's only because of the people ahead of me, who seem to think that you should get on the freeway, _then_ accelerate in the travel lane :-(
well, i wasn't taking that into consideration... :lol:
 

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i overtook a Ferrari 430 a few weeks ago doing 109mph and the Insight will quite happily accelerate away from lots of cars if you drop into 3rd gear and floor it. The low speed acceleration is also very impressive when the electric motor is providing full assist.
 

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BwaHAHAHA!

Speeding? But officer everyone knows Insights have no power. ;)

Kids please don't try this at home!
 

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just a thought

I end up passing just about EVERY car.
I have no battery assist.

Point: it's not the car that's driving!
 

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Jack9994, that is shocking behaviour :shock: :) Presumably on the M6?
 
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