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I received this today and thought it worth posting - While I do not know if everything present is 100% accurate, it seems worth sharing...cheers...

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>> I don't know what you guys are paying for gasoline.... But here in
>> California we are also paying higher, up to $4.50 per gallon. But my
>> line of work is in petroleum for about 31 years now, so here are some

>> tricks to get more of your money's worth for every gallon.
>> Here at the Kinder Morgan Pipeline where I work in San Jose, CA we
>> deliver about 4 million gallons in a 24-hour period thru the
>> One day is diesel the next day is jet fuel, and gasoline, regular and

>> premium grades. We have 34-storage tanks here with a total capacity
>> of 16,800,000 gallons.
>> Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the earl y morning when the
>> ground temperature is still cold. Remember that all service stations
>> have their storage tanks buried below ground. The colder the ground
>> the more dense the gasoline, when it gets warmer gasoline expands, so

>> buying in the afternoon or in the evening....your gallon is not
exactly a gallon.
>> In the petroleum business, the specific gravity and the temperature
>> of the gasoline, diesel and jet fuel, ethanol and other petroleum
>> products plays an important role.
>> A 1-degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this business. But
>> the service stations do not have temperature compensation at the
>> When you're filling up do not squeeze the trigger of the nozzle to a
>> fast mode. If you look you will see that the trigger has three (3)
>> low, middle, and high. You should be pumping on low speed, thereby
>> minimizing the vapors that are created while you are pumping. All
>> hoses at the pump have a vapor return. If you are pumping on the fast

>> rate, some other liquid that goes to your tank becomes vapor. Those
>> vapors are being sucked up and back into the underground storage tank

>> so you're getting less worth for your money.
>> One of the most important tips is to fill up when your gas tank is
>> HALF FULL or HALF EMPTY. The reason for this is, the more gas you
>> have in your tank the less air occupying its empty space. Gasoline
>> evaporates faster than you can imagine. Gasoline storage tanks have
>> an internal floating roof. This roof serves as zero clearance between

>> the gas and the atmosphere, so it minimizes the evaporation. Unlike
>> service stations, here where I work, every truck that we load is
>> temperature compensated so that every gallon is actually the exact
>> Another reminder, if there is a gasoline truck pumping into the
>> storage tanks when you stop to buy gas, DO NOT fill up--most likely
>> the gasoline is being stirred up as the gas is being delivered, and
>> you might pick up some of the dirt that normally settles on the
>> bottom. Hope this will help you get the most value for your money.
>> These companies import Middle Eastern oil:
>> Shell.......................... 205,742,000 barrels
>> Chevron/Texaco......... 144,332,000 barrels Exxon
>> /Mobil............... 130,082,000 barrels Marathon/Speedway...
>> 117,740,000 barrels Amoco..........................62,231,000 barrels

Venezuela already is the fourth largest exporter of oil to the United
States, trailing only Canada, Mexico, and Saudi Arabia. Here's an
excerpt from the CITGO website: "In 2006, the U.S. imported more than
1.4 million barrels of oil per day from Venezuela -- In addition to
CITGO, many major oil companies get significant amounts of the oil that
they sell from Venezuela. It is likely that some of the gas in your car
or heating oil in your home came from Venezuela."

>> Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil:
>> Sunoco.................0 barrels
>> Conoco..................0 barrels
>> Sinclair................0 barrels
>> B P/Phillips............0 barrels
>> Hess.......................0 barrels
>> ARCO....................0 barrels
>> If you go to , you will get a list of the station
>> locations near you.
>> All of this information is available from the Department of Energy
>> and each is required to state where they get their oil and how much
>> they are importing.
>> But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of gas
>> It's really simple to do.
>> Now, don't wimp out at this point.... Keep reading and I'll explain
>> how simple it is to reach millions of people!!
>> I'm sending this note to about thirty people. If each of you send it
>> to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)...and those 300 send it to at
>> least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000) .. and so on, by the time the
>> message reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have reached
>> over THREE MILLION consumers !!!!!!! If those three million get
>> excited and pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people
will have been contacted!
>> If it goes one level further, you guessed it ..... THREE HUNDRED MILL

>> Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people. How long would
>> all that take?

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Waynetc said:
>> Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the earl y morning when the
>> ground temperature is still cold. Remember that all service stations
>> have their storage tanks buried below ground. The colder the ground
>> the more dense the gasoline, when it gets warmer gasoline expands
I don't know about the rest of the tips, but buying in the morning has been disproven numerous times. Just had a guy on CNN the other night, I think from AAA, saying because the tanks are underground there is little temperature difference whatever time of day you get gas and the difference is negligable. It's like being in an underground cave, or a house built underground, the temp stays constant all year, summer or winter. Wonder if the Mythbusters have ever taken that one on? By the way, Wayne Gerdes was also on the same broadcast giving his hyper-mileing tips.

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I agree with you bfivelover plus if this guy is genuine then dealing with millions of gallons is not on the same par as putting four or six gallons in a tank as he recommends a half tank fill. Hardly worthy of considering I say.

I would have thought but do not know for sure,that station pumps should have a filter system which would dispell the sediment theory,does anyone know?

I'm curious if they handle Diesel, gasoline and aviation fuel at different times through the pipeline what about cross contamination or is he talking about three different pipe lines?

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