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Lead Acid used to Replace NiMH

2717 Views 6 Replies 5 Participants Last post by  Mike Dabrowski 2000
I thought I had menchoned this before but didn't see it when I did a search ... so I figured I would post this so everyone knows about it....

Espeically with all the recent concern about battery pack replacement I have been reading lately....

Basicly there is a group of people who replaced the NiMH 144 Volt Battery pack in the Insight with a Lead Acid Battery pack....

http://www.batteriesdigest.com/lead_for_hybrid.htm

They of course were doing it in coroperation with a lead acid battery maker, and were a bunch of engineers in a fully equiped facility...

The article listed above goes into some of the details.... But not any of the down and dirty details needed for others to also make this swap out and who knows what all was required to make it happen....

What this does mean though ... is that other batteries can be used in the insight to replace the NiMH and with lead acid being a option a cheaper alternative is out there ... The big remaining question is what is required to make it happen?????

I am still in school ... and yet do not know enough to figure it out on my own... continued web searching has not yeilded more answers for me ... so Until I am more educated or until someone already more educated does the work to figure it out this is the key and main missing piece of detail needed to make this kind of swap out.

To those who already knew about this.... I don't think anything new has happened.... they made the switch proved it would work and haven't done anything else with it since....

Just an FYI for those who didn't know about it...

Later

Ian.!
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Hi Guys
Some of the recent test have shown that the SOC determination which is based on the hall effect current sensor output can be easily fooled into thinking that more or less charge is happening, and therefore it would be pretty easy to fool the system into charging a bigger pack, as the SOC determination is solely depending on this output.
The full charge determining circuits, and recal producing subpack voltage monitoring systems would have to be fooled as well, and from what I have read, lead acid will have a much bigger droop in voltage when drained at the 100 A rate than the saphion's or the Nimh subpacks, so it could be an issue.
I have not read the link at the begining of this thread(too busy trying to get ready to ship MIMA), but will be looking into the battery issues once that hurdle is crossed.
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