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Today I was looking at Greenhybrid.com, and while looking at the mileage database I counted all the hybrid vehicles listed, and was surprised to see that an amazing 50% of Insight owners listed exceed the EPA average, of 26 vehicles 13 exceed the EPA, Prius has 116 vehicles listed and 11 exceed the EPA that's about 10%.

The Civic Hybrid is not doing too bad, 22 out of 78 (about 35%).

Keep up the good work and post your mileage.
 
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Hi Calpod:

___The Prius II is a tough egg to crack in terms of FE in my experience. I do not know why given the EPA estimates look so good but my Corolla performs similarly in that it doesn’t easily beat EPA estimates like the Insight or Ranger can … Best tank in the Corolla was 51.8 mpg (29/38 EPA) or just 36% above the EPA highway estimates. The best tank in the Insight’s was 109.0 mpg (61/70) or 56% above the EPA estimates. The Ranger has already seen a 41.9 mpg tank (24/29 EPA) at 45% higher then EPA estimates and I have only had 1 long trip and not so great temps in her so far. I remember my first test drive in a Prius II in 32 degree temps from a cold start and I hit 54.x something after ~ 7 miles. The Insight would easily have blown right past the EPA estimates on the same course in similar temps and speeds as a reference. It is just harder in a Prius II for some reason is all?

___I have got to hand it to the HCH drivers also. They are doing very well in terms of FE around the country as of late …

___By the way, I am glad to see you finally posted your lmpg in Greenhybrid’s RHMDB - Insight’s. I will add you to the “Congratulations Hyper-milers! - Honorable Mentions” category tomorrow when I get back from work.

___Good Luck

___Wayne R. Gerdes
___Hunt Club Farms Landscaping Ltd.
___[email:y92ha8wh][email protected][/email:y92ha8wh]
 

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Comparison of PRIUS II and Insight actual MPG

Here are some links to actual mileage reported for the Prius II and Insight:

Prius II CVT:
http://www.greenhybrid.com/compare/mile ... ushsd.html

Insight MT & CVT:
http://www.greenhybrid.com/compare/mileage/insight

There are only 4 CVTs in the Green Hybrid Insight database. There was also a mileage database for the CVT on Insight Central, but apparently it has been lost after the Insight Central site was hacked. Hopefully a backup exists since this was an extensive database. Perhaps Insight owners can manually repopulate the database with our current mileage data.

From the reported mileage data, and the values I recall seeing in the CVT mileage database, it would seem that the Prius II CVT has mileage values that are comparable to and possibly better than the Insight CVT.

Any thoughts on the Prius II CVT mileage?
 

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Haha. The Prius is only offered as a CVT.

The reason why the Prius EPA figures seem inflated is that the EPA tests are done at much lower speeds than real drivers cruise at. Hybrid Synergy Drive, a full hybrid powertrain, is more efficient at "city" speeds than "highway" speeds, the opposite of most every car that's ever come to the market. So, the lower speeds make the vehicle look better; the estimates are farther off mark.
 

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I have broken the 100 mpg in city driving a few times, if you time the lights and keep the car moving it's doable.
 

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I have broken the 100 mpg in city driving a few times, if you time the lights and keep the car moving it's doable.
You must have stolen one of the bus emitters that turn the lights green :D I wish they would sync the lights better around here.
 

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You must have stolen one of the bus emitters that turn the lights green I wish they would sync the lights better around here.
We live close by so you must know the streets very well around here, there are some streets that the lights are better matched than the others, it is the same everywhere, that is why you have to find what works best for your route, try different streets until you find the one where you'll get the best mileage.
 

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Oddly enough, my 1990 CRX (automatic transmission) got 49.2 mpg best tank (yes I held onto all that, I found it when I was cleaning out the car). This was a road trip across Indiana and we were screaming along at 80 mph. The CRX loves to speed.

This is better mpg than the Prius my friend has. Of course I wasn't hauling around three other people either, only one.

2005 silver Insight 5 spd no AC "Serenity"
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The Prius2 mileage is pretty impressive considering how much heavier it is over the Insight. We have a lot of them around in my town.
 
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