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Just got back from Tyrone,Pa with my 2002 Insight,repaired by McClellan's Body shop in Tipton,Pa...Denny McClellan was super helpful...he first learned all about the car,then carefully did an expert repair of the substantial front end damage...in a thoughtful,"Insightful" way....Car runs/drives perfectly...and I learned alot after jumping in with no previous Insight experience...We flew in,and drove 1000 miles home to Amery,Wi..near Minneapolis...

Note that I am a good (lifelong)mechanic,raced mosickles for years,drove/repaired everything from 2 stroke SAABs to Merkur Scorpio's...and still commute 66 miles on a Yamaha YZF R6 crotchrocket whenever possible...down to about 25 deg.F......

The very first thing I noticed is how TALL the gearing is....If you want to go up hills on the Interstate in Pa.,downshifts to 3rd,at 65mph,is the ticket.If you are naive like me,and stay in 5th,you will think the car is seizing up or the brakes are stuck on...Once you realize the power is there if you downshift,you can enjoy some spirited acceleration...but downshifts to 3rd are required,and on 2 lane roads,at 45,you may need 2nd to get around slow vehicles...If you stay in too tall a gear you will quickly hate this car.....Don't be afraid to buzz it when you need to...It will NOT pull 5th,or even 4th up long grades,into the wind...

Things I noted...that I wasn't aware of
Really dramatic TIRE NOISE...my tires have 76K on them,which contributes,but sometimes the tire noise on textured pavement is so dramatic one might think it is drivetrain problems......'til you hit smooth asphalt,when beautiful silence returns....Potholes are LOUD...some are alarmingly loud....

Newbies should pay attention to the road ,not the fuel consumption display!...It would be easy to rear end someone,because it is fun watching the MPG bar move around.I wish Honda had used a heads up display ....but that would have been spendy..

My first 125miles averaged 62 mpg....it was on some slow 2 lane ....

On the 1000 mile ride home I averaged 57.2......hit 85mph twice,drafting.
I learned flatbeds and tapered tank trucks give the best draft,without the turbulence of square back semis....

We were very comfortable for 500 miles at a wack,taking 2 days to return.Absolutely no problems,Returned to -10 degreeF weather,and the Insight started fine,warmed quickly,still got 51 mpg on my hilly commute.

I will post more later,but I love this car.I noted that through November 2005, American Honda had only sold 625 Insights......but this was up from the 2004 Nov.number of 575!!!!

We did not see another Insight on our entire trip.....and we were looking for one...I love this car,and thanks to all who helped me with the guidance and advice regarding this purchase....I paid $700 for the car,and spent $4800 getting her fixed,and I think it was a successful repair,as the car drives wonderfully,and is a really unique driving experience..
 

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One point worth considering is the huge impact that stoplights have on your mileage. My commute has quite a few lights, and in this cold, windy weather I'm having a hard time getting over 63 mpg (with a 5 speed).

A few days ago I had to make a run from Colorado Springs to Golden during rush hour. The speed limit on the Interstate is 75 and anything under 70 is suicide, but my MPG leaped up to 70! Just because of not having to stop and start...
 

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One point worth considering is the huge impact that stoplights have on your mileage. My commute has quite a few lights, and in this cold, windy weather I'm having a hard time getting over 63 mpg (with a 5 speed).

A few days ago I had to make a run from Colorado Springs to Golden during rush hour. The speed limit on the Interstate is 75 and anything under 70 is suicide, but my MPG leaped up to 70! Just because of not having to stop and start...
wow....I am new at Hyper Mpg driving,but unless I have a sustained tailwind,I don't think I will ever see a 70mpg average....

Headwinds and hills are just mileage killers,obviously,and if you are stuck with noone to draft, in winter it quickly becomes a sub 50mpg ride,in my humble and limited experience...

Seems like the ideal Insight route is flat,no wind,lotsa draftable traffic,and about 60 degrees....and sea level.....with no stops..

I have no traffic lights on my commute....all rural 2 lane,but hilly,with 5 rolling stops....Any suggestions welcome!
 

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No, it's better to be at a high altitude because the air is less dense. For the same reason, it's better for it to be hot. As hot as you can stand it without A/C or open windows.
 

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well.....maybe

most hi altitude locations involve severe elevation changes....and there is less oxygen/barometric pressure......even fuel injected cars run slightly richer at altitude,I believe...i do understand that there is less air resistance....but i don't think there are many high up locales that are flat/windless....

just amusing conjecture here.....cuz we drive where we live,and i live in the cold hilly salty frigid north...

tho soon i go to my cabin on St John!......and the car sits for 2 months...any suggestions along those lines?besides the usual?
 

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Nah, the fuel injection system compensates for altitude so the mixture is correct. And the change in drag is directly proportional to air density, which is directly proportional to (absolute) temperature. The difference between a 90 degree summer day and a 0 degree winter day is significant, perhaps 5%.

I think there's a section in the instruction manual on what to do for long term storage.

Search this forum for more on both topics...
 

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new owners be aware...what I learned after 2 months...

that the first thing you MUST do is change the ground cables...It is pathetically simple to do....Just buy one 12 inch flat braided ground strap,and replace the one going from the chassis to the gearbox...My cables were frayed/corroded almost all the way through....got much better apparent charging after replacement,and cleaning the grounding platforms.

Secondly....winter fuel consumption is about 10% worse than when it is 40 or above....And hilly country is also a limiting factor...

Third.....when it snows,or is icy,take your other car...one trip into the ditch in this fragile car is going to be very damaging,and the stock tires SUCK on slippery stuff...see the tire reviews online at TireRack

4th...park away from all other vehicles....the doors are very susceptible to dents...I wish Honda had used plastic door panels....like Saturn..this is the most common area for dents....and it wrecks the visual lines when there is a door ding....

Getting great mileage requires practice and concentration...and great patience.
I am decidedly TYPE A but have learned new tolerance for slower drivers since I switched from an R6 Yamaha to this rig....
 
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