It's almost certainly not the seatbelt. Although it should be!
There are two oxygen sensors in the 2000 Insight. The 1st is called the "LAF sensor" (Lean Air Fuel Sensor). The 2nd is a standard O2 sensor. The LAF sensor is mounted on the three way cat directly after the exhaust manifold. The 2nd sensor is mounted just before the NOX cat. The LAF sensor is the primary input that the car uses to determine it's A/F ratio. It is very important that this sensor is reading correctly, or all kinds of drivability problems will be present. If it is wildly wrong, then a code will be logged and the CEL light will illuminate.sputnik said:1. What are the two O2 sensors in the Insight...is one the Air Ratio Sensor and the other the Linear Air Fuel? What exactly does the Air Ratio Sensor do?
Not at all. There are hundreds of parameters that the ECM monitors, and almost any fault will light the CEL.2. Are faulty O2 sensors the only cause for a check engine light?
Don't know about your warranty, you're in the US. I think it's 8 years/80K miles. The LAF is about $300 Canadian, the secondary O2 is about $400 Canadian. Should give you an idea of the price.3. The ECM recall was supposed to be fixed. Are the O2/emissions components warranteed for 3 years or 8 years? The sensors look expensive.
Nope. But he should wear the seatbelt since flying through the windshield kind of sucks.4. This is really grasping at straws...but, could the fact that my husband rarely uses his seatbelt play any role?... could the belt alarm lights and bells somehow be tied to the engine light?
If they will do it for free or a modest cost, then yes. Just don't have them reset it.5. Would it be worthwhile to stop by AutoZone tomorrow and request a code check?
I second that. Just had someone on my mail route die when he was thrown threw the windshield because he wasn't wearing his seatbelt. I see his widow nearly every day. Not a pleasant situationAaron Cake said:sputnik said:Nope. But he should wear the seatbelt since flying through the windshield kind of sucks.4. This is really grasping at straws...but, could the fact that my husband rarely uses his seatbelt play any role?... could the belt alarm lights and bells somehow be tied to the engine light?
.Kathleen wrote; The Honda techs retrieved a Code P1164, lean burn failure, on the #1 O2 sensor and so this will need to be replaced
lol. Same thing happened to me when the ERG valve was going. There aren't many techs out there who know about the Insight.highwater said:.Kathleen wrote; The Honda techs retrieved a Code P1164, lean burn failure, on the #1 O2 sensor and so this will need to be replaced
I bet Aaron would have liked to have had Honda tech admit to lean burn a while back when he was going thru his ordeal. IIRC he was told lean burn did not exist.
Answer to the converter question.....Yes. She was without it anyway, no IMA battery to convert from. IMHO. This switch throwing is just to ease one's mind that that (gr) stuff is out of the loop. :wink:The dealership doesn't expect these to arrive until October 31st! Meanwhile, the say it's OK to drive the car. They said the IMA light will be on & the battery and electric motor will be non-functional
Can I say that that :?: 8)Don't mess with throwing the main circuit breaker unless you just want to tool around and see what it is like without IMA for a brief while. It will kill everything on the high voltage side of things. You'll start the engine using the backup starter motor and won't have the DC/DC to provide 12 volt power so if you get yourself in a situation where the 12 volt dies sufficiently your stuck
A polite call won't help speed things up but if they open a case file (which may not, nor should it be necessary unless something is up at your delearships end) then you'll get a bit more attention.sputnik said:<snip>
Do you think a polite call to Honda America would be out of line? We have no complaints with our dealership, just want to know what is holding this up.
I suspect the IMA electronics production line / supplier has been super busy building packs for the new Civic hybrid (?).Insightful Trekker said:AFAIK, and its only from the several posts here it is a "real" problem. Honda goofed somewhere in the chain of production and there is a backlog.
Sorry missed this in my eariler reply.sputnik said:David has been driving "Silver" with a "new" battery pack but the old computers these past three months. No IMA light... but likewise no "oomph" and about 15 mpg less on the average than "Papaya". He really wants the IMA repair complete (and the family MPG games to begin :!: )