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Interesting to read the following in Sundays Observer (UK newspaper and thanks to Benjamin for finding it) - 'Honda, having used it to perfect its IMA technology has now rolled it out in its new Civic, and will only be taking orders for the Insight until Tuesday'

Looks like you have 48 hours to order the last UK Insight!

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Thanks that was a great article!

It's a shame that there haven't been more articles like it in the past. People are still aproching me at the rate of one or two a day asking me "Is that an electric car?" Now I realise that they mean to ask if it is a hybrid.

As my brother says,"It's already a classic.". :D
 

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Though I wish I had the author here, so I could argue about the remark about "true eco-car only carrying one passenger". I mean, that IS pretty ecological: most miles are in fact done with only the driver, so it saves the weight of the extra seats &c. And it does its bit to discourage population growth, too: "Kids, honey? But there's no way we could fit them in the Insight!" :)

Maybe he meant a true socialist car?
 

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Very nice! I hadn't seen this article yet. Press coverage is great for this car!

Here are a couple other new articles from the past week.

Honda has lots of Insight, but not much vision
Reads somewhat negatively in parts but stick with it. "Those prepared to accept its idiosyncrasies are likely to become believers. The Insight is utterly unique among automobiles, a true oddball."

The new cult - Hybrids]
"Greg King, a systems engineer at Northrop Grumman in Sunnyvale, Calif., obsesses over the gasoline mileage he can eke out of his blue Honda Insight, which he bought in 2001." ...hey me too! :D

The Honda Insight is truly an unconventional car for unconventional people.
 

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Yeah, I wish I had those writers here too. It seems like they have to find fault, and since (going by internal evidence) they don't know all that much about cars, they have to pick on irrelevancies. As for instance, that it's "only a two-seater". Now when have you ever read a review of any other two-seat car, from Porsche & Ferrari down to Maza Miatas and such, that complained that they're "only" what they are? Luggage space? It isn't a van, folks, but it's still got about as much room, if not more, than most similar-sized cars.
 

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The big question the Observer article raises is the 'order by Tuesday' quote. Does this mean:

A) Honda are taking the last orders for the current Insight, prior to producing the Insight 2?

B) Honda are taking the last orders for the current production run?

C) Honda are taking the last orders for Insights (in the UK?) EVER?

This is definitely something to raise at the UK Insight Owners Day!
 

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I fear it might be 'C', as that article would have probably been triggered by a press release. The Observer/Guardian always runs a large amount of environmental news - other papers might not have bothered to report it. Perhaps keep an close eye on the press this week.

The article is poorly written though - it talks about the car in the present tense up until the middle of the final paragraph, at which point the car 'was a prototype' and is labelled 'green history'.
 

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Now when have you ever read a review of any other two-seat car, from Porsche & Ferrari down to Maza Miatas and such, that complained that they're "only" what they are? Luggage space? It isn't a van, folks, but it's still got about as much room, if not more, than most similar-sized cars.
Funny that you mention the Miata. I've been driving one this month while waiting for a very friendly mechanic to get his state inspection license (should be today). Ever heard these complaints before: 20k price for two-seats, tight passenger space, tiny cargo space, noisy on the road, harsh ride, poor rear visability, twitchy steering/short wheelbase, and being a bad car to have an accident in? From what I've seen, the Miata has it "worse" than the Insight in all those regards (the poor rear visability was due faded plastic in the convertable top).

We just have to face it, MPG (emissions and other things that go along with it), are not valued near as much as performance to warrant the mentioned complaints. Independance, self-sufficiency, and sound financials were at the core of the creation and success of the USA. I still believe in those and this car meets those best for me.

Anyone remember this survey that from last May (when gasoline broke the 2.05 record)? It went like this:

When asked to rank the importance of 56 characteristics they considered when buying a new car, Americans ranked fuel economy 44th. This explains why sport utility vehicles, minivans and light trucks accounted for 54 percent of all new cars bought last year.

"It's still more important to have the right number of cup holders than high fuel economy," said Art Spinella, director of CNW Marketing Research, which conducted the survey.
Sorry to have somewhat hijacked the thread! About the Observer/Guardian article...

Last year in the US, 424 cars were sold from Jan to May and 159 after. This year 227 have sold in the Jan to May period. Assuming the same sales drop off rate and production of a smaller run, there will be 85 more sales this year. Of the choices, I hope it's only (B).

Of course Honda might not want to do such limited runs for the low demand worldwide. If the Insight remains unchanged next year, couldn't production be even further limited by doing just one run. Honda would still keep the MPG crown for a small price instead of handing it to Toyota. Toyota has done something like that with the Echo. The sales proved disappointing so they severely slashed production.

If the US sales continue their severe downward trend, sales would be double digits for the entire year in 2007. With the new Civic and touched up Accord coming up for 2006, I'm a bit pessimistic about Honda also launching the Insight 2. One more year of the Insight just 'feels' right to me. That would give another year to gauge the fuel prices and sustainability of the US economys recovery. Honda has offered us the CRX HF, Civic VX, and Insight but few have bitten. Will they be willing to do it again and gamble on it sooner than later?
 

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It will be interesting to see what information we can glean at the UK Insight Owners Day. Press snippets about the new Honda Civic IMA (particularly the recent speech by the Honda President) claim extraordinary MPG figures (though not as good as our Insights). If, as it appears, the new Civic IMA can beat the Prius MPG figures then it may spell the end for our Insights as Honda can still claim the MPG crown, which may mean Option C.

However given the information about the Insight 2 on the UK TopGear and Autotrader websites I am still hoping for Option A, especially since so many other manufacturers are about to produce hybrid models and there appears to be a shift in car buying trends by consumers in the USA...
 

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"...Americans ranked fuel economy 44th."

It's not just Americans. I'm currently working in Switzerland, where gas prices are around $5/gallon, and have been for some time. While you do see a good many small cars, such as the Smart, it's not because of fuel economy. It's because of the narrow streets and very limited parking.

Though there are few of the largest SUVs, presumably for the same reason, mid-sized SUVs of the Toyota, Nissan, & Land Rover class are at least as common as in the US. Even more common are upper-mid range to very expensive cars, from BMWs up through Porsches, Ferraris & Rolls-Royces, that guzzle as much gas.

I've seen a total of 3 Prii here, one of those a display at the university's tech expo day. Zero Insights...
 

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Honda UK have now deleted the Insight from its new car website. Anyone lend me £17k??? :wink: I will let them borrow my 05 Insight for free!
 

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Aargh!!!!
 

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Not so worried

Sulphur Man said:
I fear it might be 'C', as that article would have probably been triggered by a press release. The Observer/Guardian always runs a large amount of environmental news - other papers might not have bothered to report it. Perhaps keep an close eye on the press this week.

The article is poorly written though - it talks about the car in the present tense up until the middle of the final paragraph, at which point the car 'was a prototype' and is labelled 'green history'.
Then again, the Insight could be like Cher on her Farewell Tour...
 
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