What do you do when the dealer replaces the wrong part? 2001 MT insight
Here's what happened:
1) December 2006, check engine light (CEL) on, code P0420. Dealer suggested cat was failing. I was monitoring situation. CEL came on and off occasionally. Decided I better do something about it.
2) January 10th 2007, went to dealer, verified P0420 code, suggested cat replacement. Work done.
3) May 22, 2007 had my car into an independent shop for clutch replacement. Clutch work done. Duing their test drive, CEL on, code P0420.
4) Shop called me about CEL. I mentioned that cat recently replaced. Mechanic said didn't look like cat had been touched. Hmmm.
5) I looked up paper work from dealer. It said cat part number: 18160-PHM-A00, description "converter" replaced.
6) Independent mechanic did some research, here's his conclusion.
a) dealer part number was for rear cat, there are two. One right near exhaust manifold, one further back.
b) on 2001 MT there are only two sensors: at intake and output of first cat. The second sensor sets the P0420 code. There is no sensor monitoring rear cat. ( there is a third sensor monitoring the rear cat on 2002-2006 MT models)
So... code was for failure of front cat, dealer replaced rear.
Is this analysis correct? What do you'all think I should do?
Regards, Jim
'01 #191
p.s. I'm guessing the wrong cat got ordered and when it arrived the tech simply replaced it.
Majestic Honda web page lists "converter kit" for front cat and "converter" for rear.
http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/aut ... HAUST+PIPE
If you look at other years, you'll see the third sensor.
Here's what happened:
1) December 2006, check engine light (CEL) on, code P0420. Dealer suggested cat was failing. I was monitoring situation. CEL came on and off occasionally. Decided I better do something about it.
2) January 10th 2007, went to dealer, verified P0420 code, suggested cat replacement. Work done.
3) May 22, 2007 had my car into an independent shop for clutch replacement. Clutch work done. Duing their test drive, CEL on, code P0420.
4) Shop called me about CEL. I mentioned that cat recently replaced. Mechanic said didn't look like cat had been touched. Hmmm.
5) I looked up paper work from dealer. It said cat part number: 18160-PHM-A00, description "converter" replaced.
6) Independent mechanic did some research, here's his conclusion.
a) dealer part number was for rear cat, there are two. One right near exhaust manifold, one further back.
b) on 2001 MT there are only two sensors: at intake and output of first cat. The second sensor sets the P0420 code. There is no sensor monitoring rear cat. ( there is a third sensor monitoring the rear cat on 2002-2006 MT models)
So... code was for failure of front cat, dealer replaced rear.
Is this analysis correct? What do you'all think I should do?
Regards, Jim
'01 #191
p.s. I'm guessing the wrong cat got ordered and when it arrived the tech simply replaced it.
Majestic Honda web page lists "converter kit" for front cat and "converter" for rear.
http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/aut ... HAUST+PIPE
If you look at other years, you'll see the third sensor.