Please read this, your childrens future may depend on it.

Mike Dabrowski 2000 · 2005-09-01

I know that many of you have no interest in MIMA. Please read this, it may help change your mind. http://www.insightcentral.net/forum/vie ... 6&start=30 Thanks

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Aaron Cake

· #2 · Sep 1, 2005

Not to be a jackass or anything, but how many MIMA topics do we need? Seriously?

BTW, I'll likely be ordering one of your kits one they become available. I just need to read over the 30+ topics again and make sure it's what I'm looking for...

Edit...Don't take this as hostility or negativity. It's just that there are SO MANY MIMA related topics that I lost track of them months ago. And the crossposting can just make it worse.

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Armin

· #3 · Sep 1, 2005

MIMA category

Maybe we should have a category for all the MIMA discussion? That would make it easier to follow for those interested and keep it from cluttering the boards for those who don't care.

I suspect there will be a lot more MIMA specific discussions, since it transforms the Insight into another thing entirely. So a lot of stuff that MIMA drivers experience and have questions about will bear no sifgnificance for conventional Insighters.

Moderators? What do you think?

Hoping to become a MIMA driver soon...

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Mike Dabrowski 2000

Discussion Starter · #4 · Sep 1, 2005

Well Aaron
I am sorry if you don't get the message. If you will be ordering a kit, just download the forms and mail them to me. I will then know to order the boards for your kit.
Seems simple enough to me. :wink:

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Aaron Cake

· #5 · Sep 1, 2005

Yes, a MIMA forum is a good idea...

Mike, sorry if that came off a little harsher then it should have. I am actually very interested in MIMA, but have been so frustrated that I have not been able to follow the discussion due to the number of topics. I have only a few minutes a day to quickly read through the forum.

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Corey872

· #6 · Sep 1, 2005

I've been away for a while...do we have a MIMA FAQ or MIMA summary page???

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Mike Dabrowski 2000

Discussion Starter · #7 · Sep 2, 2005

I will be putting up a complete new MIMA section of my website without so much old stuff, and with complete install instructions. I will be up tomorrow, as four people will be installing their MIMA systems on Saturday.
http://pages.cthome.net/genesisone/MIMA.htm
http://www.insightcentral.net/forum/vie ... php?t=3357
is also good as it is where the people using MIMA are discussing their experiences.
Also check out the Buy and sell thread on MIMA, I just put the pricing info up there.

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Dougie

· #8 · Sep 2, 2005

There are three things I'd like control over. Ideally there would be pushbuttons that would do the following:

1.) Force autostop at any time. I'm coasting towards a red light at 40 mph and want to shut down the engine.
2.) Hold throttle at fuel cut. I'm coasting and want to hold that difficult balance where I'm neither charging nor using any gas.
3.) Prevent assist. I'm accelerating or hillclimbing and don't want to use the IMA.

As far as I know there are no manipulations of the existing (stock) car controls that get you these three useful conditions. The first two are probably the most useful.

Can the MIMA system be constructed so that there are just those three buttons?

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Insightful Trekker

· #9 · Sep 2, 2005

From my read the primary culprit is Mike (no offense).

He started and or replied to several diverging MIMA threads. Willie didn't have this problem with his turbo thread.

We moderators do our best in trying to nudge you guys in keeping your threads from fragmenting, perhaps this is the best example so far.

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Mike Dabrowski 2000

Discussion Starter · #10 · Sep 2, 2005

John
I split the threads, as the first one got into so many different aspects of MIMA that the throttle based control, the kit configurations, and the user interface options were all being discussed, and people were not able to follow them. At least that is how I saw it.
I will stop posting about MIMA on this group altogether if you would prefer, or focus on the user experience and MIMA progress threads if that makes more sense. As Armin suggest, maybe the answer will be to start a new catagory only for MIMA?
This MIMA project can help save gas, and show the world that the hybrid offerings of today are not taking full advantage of the intelligent control of the hybrid mix that an aware skilled driver can do. I want my next hybrid to have a MIMA like control as a factory option, then I will be happy that I have done something ecologically meaningful, and will have possibily helped re-defing the HHI of future hybrids.
So where do we go from here Mr Moderator?
:wink:

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Insightful Trekker

· #11 · Sep 3, 2005

Mike Dabrowski 2000 said:
John
I split the threads, as the first one got into so many different aspects of MIMA that the throttle based control, the kit configurations, and the user interface options were all being discussed, and people were not able to follow them. At least that is how I saw it.

Sounds like we're agreeing. MIMA got effectively "multi-posted" to the degree that now interested members cannot now follow the topic. And to some degree it was unavoidable. But the solution now is to "tighten-up" the fragmenting of new threads so the topic can be followed (e.g. this thread

).

Mike Dabrowski 2000 said:
I will stop posting about MIMA on this group altogether if you would prefer, or focus on the user experience and MIMA progress threads if that makes more sense. As Armin suggest, maybe the answer will be to start a new category only for MIMA?

No need to stop posting about MIMA. The "issues" at hand are how to keep the discussion organized sufficiently such that we don't keep getting "stray" posts RE: "What's MIMA :?: " etc.

Mike Dabrowski 2000 said:
This MIMA project can help save gas, and show the world that the hybrid offerings of today are not taking full advantage of the intelligent control of the hybrid mix that an aware skilled driver can do. :wink:

Yes, its a gas saver at an additional (yet to be measured) cost in batteries and remotely so with some of the other IMA components. And at $3.49/ gal for regular gas the cost effective point is much closer than at the old $1.80/ gal. Personally I am watching this with renewed interest. :!:

Mike Dabrowski 2000 said:
I want my next hybrid to have a MIMA like control as a factory option, then I will be happy that I have done something ecologically meaningful, and will have possibly helped re-defing the HHI of future hybrids.
So where do we go from here Mr Moderator?
:wink:

Sounds like you need some patents on your design and endeavor to persevere in "selling" it to a manufacturer. But when your ready to come down back with us mere mortals riding around in our Insights I'd hope you'd continue with the battery upgrade options the _will_ help MIMA *SHINE*.

In conclusion,

As a moderator I'm merely trying to help _within the rules imposed on me here @ IC_. Of which I have extensively reflected upon and completely agree with their overall intent. The devil is in the details. :twisted:

I have received a reply from Benjamin (as have the other moderators) and at this time he's not indicated up or down on a MIMA forum.

So to start the thankless job of trying to make this work I'll lock this thread after your or several other replies on topic to *this* post. And since MIMA is a Modification and Technical issue will direct all future MIMA posts there. A "re-introduction" to MIMA post might be the place to start :?:

Each and every member can also do their part by replying to an out of place post with a link to the correct forum and post and then PM a moderator for a lock request (not all requests may be honored

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Sincerely,

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Mike Dabrowski 2000

Discussion Starter · #12 · Sep 3, 2005

John
Thanks for trying to get this cleared up, without banning me from the group.
John Wrote
Sounds like you need some patents on your design and endeavor to persevere in "selling" it to a manufacturer. But when your ready to come down back with us mere mortals riding around in our Insights I'd hope you'd continue with the battery upgrade options the _will_ help MIMA *SHINE*.

If I was interested in the commertial aspects of MIMA, That would be the way to go. I chose to share everything right from the begining, that should make my motivation for MIMA pretty clear I would think? :wink: [/quote]

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Insightful Trekker

· #13 · Sep 3, 2005

A moderator cannot "ban" a member (we do have the admin's ear), nor was it *ever* on my mind in _your_ case.

But we have volunteered to enforce the rules. And the devil is in the details :!: :twisted:

As stated earlier in this thread, Locking (and it usually lures a few more lookers just to see what "trouble" was up).

Please follow-up to this related thread (you really needed a better headline Mike

):

http://www.insightcentral.net/forum/vie ... php?t=3554

p.s. I never fully appreciated the complexities of communication until I tried communicating with strangers, limiting myself to the written word only (Read: Internet message boards).

HTH!

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