[Rick]

Hi everyone, was randomly browsing through some Honda sites and came across this:
http://www.s2ki.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=131795
Considering the S2000 and the Insight are both on the same TSB for the window auto down problem I figure maybe, just maybe this might help someone out there out. My window has been working just fine though so I have no way of testing this. Here's a cut and paste of their procedure:

The car has to be started!!
1. push and and hold the window button down all the way until its completly down.
2. when its completely down, let go and push it down again and hold for 2 to 3 seconds. then let go
3. now pull and roll the window up until its all the way up.
4. when its up let go
5. pull the button up again for 2 to 3 seconds.
(after step 2, he said you should be able to hear or feel the motor or something inside reset.)
6. now then your autoscroll should work correctly. Mine does now.

A lot of them on that forum claim it's working. Who knows.

 

[dazey]

Even though it's 10:30pm on a Sunday I had to try this out since it's been bugging me for a while now.

In the first 2 attempts I heard no click or other noise when the window was down and I held the button down. However, the third time was the charm. Turned the car off and then back on, rolled down the window, waited a second, held the button down but only to the first click (didn't press down to the second click like you would to use auto-down.) After about 3 seconds there was a faint click sound from in the door and when I tried to roll it up it would not roll up (this is reported on the s2ki.com forum.) Again turned the car off and back on, then the window would roll up and auto-down worked!

Good find!

 

[Rick]

Haha, cool. Maybe this can save some people the trouble and cost of getting a new regulator. Now it actually makes me wounder if they actually are replacing the window regulators or not when you take them in for service.

 

[gomarlins3]

S2Ki is very informative. Having both vehicles, you would be surprised how many pieces are the same or similar on these two cars.

 

[dazey]

Ok, so it did work when I first tried the "reset" but today when I actually drove the car the auto-down did not work. :?

Thinking that I didn't give the electronics enough time when I first did the reset I tried the procedure again (with a few changes) and so far it is working, but I will see if it is still working in a few days. Here's what I did, starting with the car off:

1. Started the engine.
2. Rolled the window all the way down by holding the button to the first click.
3. Waited a few seconds then again held the button down to the first click for about 10 seconds untill I heard a click in the door.
4. Waited 10-15 seconds then rolled the window all the way up.
5. Waited a few seconds then held the button up until I heard a click in the door.
6. Waited another 10-15 seconds and shut off the engine.
7. Turned the engine back on and tested auto-down.

The first time I hit the button the window only went down about 4 inches then stopped untill I hit auto-down again at which point it went all the way down. I tried several more times and it worked fully each time after that. It may be that there is more resistance at that point in the window channel as it slows at the same point when rolling up. The last time Honda worked on the car I had them check the window and all they did was put a little oil in the channel and it rolled up smoothly for a month or so, but Auto-down still didn't work (they didn't replace the regulator.)

 

[pwendell]

This, or something very close, worked for me. My auto-down stopped working completely about 3 months. I repeated the steps listed in the first post a couple of times and now it works like a champ. At one point during the process, my windows stopped working completely for about 10 seconds. When they started working again, auto-down was functional.

Go figure.

 

[Guest]

Hi Pwendell:

At one point during the process, my windows stopped working completely ...

___If I didn’t know any better, I would swear you guys were talking about some kind of new OS called “Windows” made by some kid billionaire somewhere

___If this electro-mechanical procedure resets the regulator/relay(s) logic, wouldn’t disabling power to the auto-down circuit also reset the regulator/relay(s)? What if you pulled the fuse that powers the windows and the regulator. With the loss of power, wouldn’t the window regulator also reset? Just wondering if this regulator has some kind of electronic logic circuit bug that can be reproduced is all?

___Lastly, I saw the TSB on All-Data’s site for the 03 Insight. Does Honda have a permanent fix given the reporting to All-Data?

___Good Luck

___Wayne R. Gerdes
___Hunt Club Farms Landscaping Ltd.
___[email:1hx6oz6h][email protected][/email:1hx6oz6h]

 

[james]

Ok, now that you guys have fixed it, could you figure out how I can break mine? I hate it when I go to crack the window an inch or so, but it develops a mind of its own and keeps on going down.

 

[PlaneJob]

Ok, now that you guys have fixed it, could you figure out how I can break mine? I hate it when I go to crack the window an inch or so, but it develops a mind of its own and keeps on going down.

Be gentle, my son, gentle. The switch has two distinct contacts when pusing down, the first contact rolls it down until you let go. The second contact, which you can feel as a distinct 'click' or 'notch' rolls it down all the way.

Now if I could figure out how to turn mine around... So it would roll all the way up automatically like a VW.

 

[james]

Gentleness may work when you're standing still, but when moving there's enough vibration (on most of the roads around here, anyway) so that sometimes my finger presses harder than I really intended it to, and surprise!

 

[dazey]

If you hit auto-down then push the switch back up as the window is rolling down you can stop it. Not the best, but it works.

As far as my auto-down, I had somewhat given up on it as it just would not work reliably even with the steps I posted above. that was until about a month ago it just started working fine on it's own...

 

[scottinmt]

Dazey,

with the car running your process worked... I now have a workable auto-down window.

Thanks

 

[boogetyboogety]

Thanks, Dazey!

I so seldom use my autodown feature... I didn't even know it wasn't working! But I tried it, it wasn't, sure enough.

So I did your little routine, and Presto! Change-O! Autodown on command! What a curious fix...

Of all the fora out there that I frequent, this one has to be populated by some of the most knowledgeable and involved drivers on the planet... thanks! :