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Hey guys...I am VERY seriously considering an insight, in fact I have already decided that is my next car. Though I'm still not sure if I should just get a new one or a used. Here are two acutions on ebay right now for two red 5-sp insights (exactly what I am looking for) The milage on the one is rather high while the other seems a lot more resonable. I was looking for opinions on these. Also, is milage as much as a factor when shopping for a hybrid car then it is whilst shopping for a non-hybrid car. Only reason I am asking is because the engine does not run as much or as hard in most hybrids as it would in a normal gas powered vehicle. Thanks for any help:)!! Transform and roll oout:) :lol:

Here are the links to the auctions:
virginia:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... gory=31839

Georgia:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... gory=31839
 

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Many months ago I was in the same position as you. It took me almost 20 months to find what I wanted. I found most Honda dealers in my area really didn't want to sell a new Insight ( I now know it's because they loose money on the sale) I did the web search like you mentioned, local and out-state paper search as you've also likley done, with no luck. But I'm the persistant type and one day found 3 ! - YES 3 - used Insights - Two at a dealer and 1 from a private party. The private party wanted +17K for a 2001 5 Spd that wasn't taken very good care of - he had only 1 oil change receipt (at a Econo-Lube no less :roll: ) and the interior was trashed.
The dealers choices were better. Both were 2000/Silver/AC/ Honda Certified, 1 Auto. The auto had 18K on it and the 5 Spd had 25K on it. I really wanted a 5 Spd, so I went for it. Mileage does play into buying, in my case the small diff between the two was a no brainer. Keep searching, don't give up if you really want an Insight - you'l be glad you did. :)
 

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I think the main issue in terms of choosing a new car vs. a used car has to do with how long you intend to own the car, and how long you are willing to wait for an opportunity that is not immediately in front of you.

I had a 2000 Insight that was destroyed in an accident and wanted to get another Insight. I looked at one used Insight. It looked okay. Though it was not the color I wanted, that wasn't essential to me. I was mostly concerned about whether the car had been abused or not. I tend to keep cars a long time, evidenced by my 1992 Civic with 212,000 miles on it.

The first thing that bothered me was what I didn't find: There were no entries in the Owner's Manual noting when they had done any service on the car. It was a returned lease car and the dealer stupidly tried to comfort me by telling me that he wasn't even sure this manual actually belonged to this car. The car had 12,000 miles on it. The rear tires looked pristine and the front tires had some obvious wear.

That's when I figured it probably had not had its first oil change yet. The tires had not been rotated. Likely, the only maintenance it had was filling the gas tank. The gas mileage was in the 40s, so likely it was driven mostly in city driving, and perhaps not all that conservatively.

While you might judge that the engine isn't run as hard as a regular car, realize that the engine is smaller than in a regular car and it gets run plenty hard in normal driving. It's a tough little engine (hey, it's a Honda), but in order to get multiple 100,000 miles out of it, it does need to be maintained, and likely you won't know how well it was maintained by the first owner unless you are the first owner.

That was important to me, so I passed on the used car and ordered a new one, since I didn't want a CVT. It took about 3 months to get it, though I got it in the color I want, 5-speed and while I didn't want air conditioning and they talked me into it, they did give me enough of a price break for me to feel more comfortable with my compromise.

So, you can pick one of the cars immediately available to you and you'll probably be fine. It's a Honda. Take care of it and it will likely last you many years. You'll probably save money, since any repairs you have to do because of poor first ownership probably won't exceed the additional cost of buying a new car. Even new cars, even of a good model can be an individual lemon, so there's no such thing as a safe choice.

Just make a choice, any choice, and then commit to it. Don't choose one and then allow yourself the luxury of wishing you'd made a different choice. You can be happy with ANY choice, so long as you invest fully in it to choose a car and then make it the best car you've ever owned, in your mind if not in your driveway.
 

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Thanks for the input so far everyone:) I was able to find a blue CVT at the local honda deal. I made it very clear that I only wanted a 5-spd, no compromises. I don't really care about the AC. I can deal with red, blue or Silver. Silver is my last choice, its a small car...easily repainted:) Anyhow, the dude I am dealing with found a 5-spd, silver with AC. He is going to try to get the other honda place to do a dealer swap so I can get the 5-spd. Price wise, I'm thinking I will offer them 17k no more then 17.5K. I will know by friday...though I'm confident that everything will turn out as I wish:) I'm already looking for an adapter to connect my JVC 12-disc changer (chX-1100) to the OEM head unit. If I can't find one, then I will have to get a new head unit that supports a J-Link connection. Anyone ever come across such an adapter during your own research? Thanks :wink:
 

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new or used insight? Think about new for the perfection

Congrats on your decision to get an Insight - it's an awesome car and I look forward to driving mine every trip. Even to work.

I bought a "used" Honda Canada demo model from the dealer with 5000 miles on it and a few thousand dollars less than the new sticker. But if I were to do it over again, as much a proponent of buying used as I am, I'd be very tempted to buy brand-new to get a "perfect" car without the scratches, slow leak in the one tire, and all the keys included, etc. Of course, then it's up to you and the law of probabilities to keep it in great shape.

I paid some extra haggled-down money for an extended warranty from Honda for peace of mind on the IMA system - some people may not agree with this move but it wouldn't take much repair work, especially at parts prices for this car, to get it back. Speaking of parts prices, for your own info I'd suggest pricing some commonly replaced parts so you have an idea of maintenance and repairs expenses beforehand.

If you buy from a dealer, any questions you ask about the history and condition of the car I'd suggest getting the responses in writing so if you find some surprises you have recourse.

Best of luck and happy shopping.
 

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If they only gave you one set of keys you can pretty cheaply get another set. Here's how:

Take your existing key to the parts department and see if they have a setup to copy that key. My local dealership was able to clone my only existing key for about $13. Then, go on eBay and find a remote for a CRV or S2000. The FCC id number will be the same and it will work for the Insight after reprogramming the car to do so which is pretty easy. All in all I was able to get another key and remote for less than $30, which gives me the peace of mind knowing I wont have to have the car towed in ever and have new keys made for it.
 

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I have showed my 2000 5SPD Red #5121 off to a lot of people .. And several are seriuosly looking to buy a Insight. I advise them to look for a low mileage used insight , do to trade in value . I bought mine off of Ebay below blue book with factory warranty milage/time. Prior to buying I contacted my local Honda dealer and had them check the in service date to check when the car was actually purchased and to determine factory warranty .. I found that even though my model is a 2000 it didn't sell till March 2001 .. So I placed my bid and won .. Got it for $1K less than blue book and $2K less then the deal for a not as nice model with more milage.

Good Luck ,

Stephen
 
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