The car is a 2001 with 42,000 miles, it is a stick with AC (climate control). The asking price is 12,000$. I feel that the Certification (1,000$), plus tax(1,000$), plus my travel (500$) to go get it just puts it out of my range. I have yet to bargain at all. But they would have to come WAY down. If I could get out the at 12,500$ that might be OK. I really want a blue insight with a 5-speed, AC and either a honda care warranty or a certification. Can a Honda Care warranty be purchased on a used honda? I was under the impression that was only for new cars. How much can I talk them down? What would you guys ballpark guess? Thanks, this is a great forum.