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My 2010 insight had an accident. The air bags blew up. I changed all air bags, belts, sensors and the module. After I connected the pin 4 and 9 In the OBDII plug it shows a DCT14-7 error.
What does it mean this error, would you also tell me where can I find the MES(Memory erase signal)??
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Welcome aboard. Sorry its under these cirsumstances. I have the shop manual and the info may not be exactly what you are looking for.

Not showing a 14-7, I see a 41-7, No signal from left front impact sensor.

Basically the codes could be either a bag, sensor or the cpu. The codes go from 12-x and jumps to 21-x and goes up to 83-27.

Is this the main dtc or the srs sub menu dtc? :p

To reset memeory you need a HDS system or a cloan from ebay.
 

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Thanks for the replay, I don’t know really the difference between the main DTC and the SRS sub menu DTC. what I did is I just connected the pin no. 4 to pin no.9 in the OBDII plug with a clip, then I turned on the engine to II, the air bag light came on for a while then went off, after few second it started blinking very quickly (4 times) then went off, after 3 seconds it started to blink very slowly (4 times) then went off for about 3 seconds, then it started blinking fast (7 times) but slower that the first 4 blinks. then the cycle of 4-4-7 blinks restarted again.
I think the first fast 4 blinks are counted as 10 plus the second very slow 4=14, this is the main code and the last 7 blinks are the sub code. Pls correct me if I’m wrong.
 

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Every time I've had an error with air bags it's always the plugs. All the airbag and seatbelt plugs have those little plastic retainer clips. These clips not only keep the plug fastened but they also push little metal pins away from contact. Basically the pins ground the system to deactivate it. If those pins are bent or the plug retainer clip isn't exact it won't seat right. It's been a while since I did an insight airbag so I can't remember exactly but again.... Those retainers are more than just retainers. If they are not in right the car knows it. You can also fool it with a 2.5 ohm resistor to determine if you have a bad belt or bag but never had one be bad. I use the resistor to determine which plug is not quite right. Lastly, I've had the drivers bag get hot and melt the plug a bit. It then needs replaced. I believe i still have a clock spring if u need it but I often can just replace the plug. I always blame a component but it always the plug..... And I stopped chasing codes a long time ago. Just go back over what you did. Good luck
 

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Ill doubble check. The SRS part of the 2010 service manual is 300+ pages. Like mentioned it seems if any of the connectors are loose, etc it will also trigger an error. THe error code I was looking for was from an odb2 scanner or the HDS scanner that has the srs sub menu.

All of the SRS connectors are yellow if that helps. I had one from the connector to the passenger side indicator was loose when I switched out my radios.
 

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Every time I've had an error with air bags it's always the plugs. All the airbag and seatbelt plugs have those little plastic retainer clips. These clips not only keep the plug fastened but they also push little metal pins away from contact. Basically the pins ground the system to deactivate it. If those pins are bent or the plug retainer clip isn't exact it won't seat right. It's been a while since I did an insight airbag so I can't remember exactly but again.... Those retainers are more than just retainers. If they are not in right the car knows it. You can also fool it with a 2.5 ohm resistor to determine if you have a bad belt or bag but never had one be bad. I use the resistor to determine which plug is not quite right. Lastly, I've had the drivers bag get hot and melt the plug a bit. It then needs replaced. I believe i still have a clock spring if u need it but I often can just replace the plug. I always blame a component but it always the plug..... And I stopped chasing codes a long time ago. Just go back over what you did. Good luck
Hi I am troubleshooting a gen 1 insight with airbag problem fault code shows open in drivers side seat belt wire backed up by testing wire with multimeter.
Replacement loom is over $400 & will take 3 weeks to get here so would like some information to repair the break.
I have run a new wire from a wreck honda logo with same plugs at seatbelt end.
both old wires though show open circuit so I am not sure if there is a polarity to the circuit inside the seatbelt.
how is it normally activated,circuit diagram shows a resistor if its a simple heater circuit obviously either way would be ok.
have downloaded a pdf manual,but still unsure:confused:
 

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To reset memeory you need a HDS system or a cloan from ebay.
Not True,
You have a manual so look at page 22-117 ....

Step 4. ,You need to jump a connection at the fuse box bottom corner....

Step 5, wait 5 seconds while you appreciate the flashing ceiling light display.

Step 6.You can then review any DTC's using the MID.

Step 9. Reset the DTC's with the SEL/Reset button by Holding it for 10 seconds.
 

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Gee, thanks. Now every Tom, Dick and Harry knows how to clear the DTC when the bags go off and can illegally resell the car vs replacing everything as required in the US.

Typically once the bags goes off the insurance company considered the car totaled as the blast causes a lot of damage to the steering, dash and other parts if the accident that triggered it didnt.

Its one thing for someone from Russia to buy a "totaled" I2 from an insurance company and make it road worthy again for US to see more crashes on youtube. Its another for them to buy the car and resell it in the US as to have little to no accident damage.
 

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Those that do such things to "Cheat" already know where to get the information which the Owner Manual tells you on page 435. You just go to helminc.com then Click the Vehicle Owners, Do it Yourself and Proffesionals, Click Here : http://www.helminc.com/helm/welcome_select_oem.asp?Style=helm

The Process I gave clears the Trouble Codes NOT the History codes so if the HDS is used as stated in the service manual on page 24-7, IF the HDS is used you can obtain a more detailed DTC in the HRS SRS Menu which will show the History of everything that occurred with the SRS on the vehicle even if DTC's are cleared!

The intended purpose for the instructions I gave IS for the Independant Mechanic to be able to Service Honda Vehicles WITHOUT having to have the Fancy Honda Specific Tools.
 

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There are places along the coast, sometimes that between border states that can help with title issues. :cool: A lot of the cars you see for sale on craigs list are salvage and the seller does not disclose that til you drive out to see and or buy it.

A totaled car resold in the U.S. would have a "salvage" title.
 

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Not showing a 14-7, I see a 41-7, No signal from left front impact sensor.
The 14- Codes are a SWS DTC code which is a Sub code of SRS Unit DTC 82-, See the Service manual, Page 24-41.

The 14-7 Code is self check code within the SRS Brain and it says at the top of page 24-41 , Don't use the SWS DTC unless directed to, Also thse codes are cleared when the ignition key is turned to Lock.

Working with the SRS is VERY DANGEROUS and I would not recommend it as many of the components are triggered by Static Electrcity. As a current flow of over 10 mA (0.01 Amp) can trigger a Bag! This is mentioned on page 24-17.
 

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Indeed, I don't "drive out and see" any vehicle that does not have it's VIN in the listing I can run through Carfax. That $40.00 covers as many vehicles you want to run for a month(?) I think. The last time I paid for Carfax (looking for a car for my daughter) i ran the VINs of all the cars I had ever had. Pretty interesting to see where they are now, or if they still exist. I was surprised in several cases that cars I thought were trash when I got rid of them were still on the road.
 

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Has anybody else tried the pin 4 - 9 jump to show dtc codes. Back in the day for my 89 Olds I would do a jump connection on the OBDII to blink codes out on the Check Engine lamp, I even had a paper clip stashed next to the OBDII for it. But times have moved on and I cant find any other reference to that 4 -9 method for this 2010 honda .

The OP also posted on https://www.2carpros.com/questions/2010-honda-insight-dear-sir-had-accident-changed-air-bags-seat-belts-sensors and the single reply doubted the method

I'll take a good look at the electrical diagram B4 I do it , if I don't get positive responses here

My 2010 insight had an accident. The air bags blew up. I changed all air bags, belts, sensors and the module. After I connected the pin 4 and 9 In the OBDII plug it shows a DCT14-7 error.
What does it mean this error, would you also tell me where can I find the MES(Memory erase signal)??
Thanks

The service manual posted here is secured to not copy from it, A PIA ! any chance there's a password for it or a link to free manual not protected?


Yes I'm aware there are warnings on working with the air bags, While I've never worked on a air bag system , I've spent decades handling integrated circuits that carry similar warnings , and have yet to do any damage.


Below is the procedure I used (found in the manual also posted above) and it doesn't display the SRS DTC , so after some more hunting in the service manual I may MAY try the pin 4-9 .

I'd post a capture of the DATA LINK CONNECTOR wiring but it seems this site will not host pics, a PIA post it here , but I can host it else where if needed.





You have a manual so look at page 22-117 ....

Step 4. ,You need to jump a connection at the fuse box bottom corner....

Step 5, wait 5 seconds while you appreciate the flashing ceiling light display.

Step 6.You can then review any DTC's using the MID.

Step 9. Reset the DTC's with the SEL/Reset button by Holding it for 10 seconds.

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So it was yellow drivers side airbag connection below the drivers seat. I simply pushed on the the connector and wires going into the connector, the next start up the SRS warning was gone.

I threw a $10 to a local tech with the snap-on code reader to get code 31-21 "high drivers side airbag resistance".... Looked at the diagram and that was the only connection other than to the controller. I was getting ready to disconnect battery and all the procedures to work on the SRS when a had some time waiting at a supermarket. While sitting I reach down and found the left most connector took a pic to confirm it was yellow.

The SRS and other sub system codes don't show with the fuse box short. When I traced out that OBDII plug short mentioned , one pin to ground , one pin to EPS power steering ? I didn't try it.
 
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