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Ha! You've found my secret weapon!

This is one of those tools that is a serious life-changer. No more drain-plug!

It also works great to suction out the extra when the dealer (or fill-in-the-blank quickie shop) overfills the oil. We still take the Odyssey to the dealer for maintenance. I can't do everything.
 

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OK no drain plug sound great!! How does this work? Do you stick a tube into the oil fill and create a vacuum with the pump? Sound VERY INTERESTING. Holicow I drive and Insight and Odyssey also.....
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William said:
OK no drain plug sound great!! How does this work? Do you stick a tube into the oil fill and create a vacuum with the pump? Sound VERY INTERESTING. Holicow I drive and Insight and Odyssey also.....
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Great minds think alike, eh?

About the pump, you have the concept generally right. It is a canister with a pump (like a bike pump) with a long thin tube that goes down the dipstick tube into the oilpan. Warm up car, insert tube, pump it about 20 times and wait 5-10 min, and you have all the oil in the bottle.

Here is the one I have (the PL-6000):
http://www.pelaproducts.com/

Coincidentally, I live about 20 miles from the company that makes it. Order it from them, it is cheaper than any of the other re-sellers.
 

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All in the Honda family.

I bought a new '02 CR-V that my son is now driving, I got my '01 Insight last August, and later this month we are planning to trade our other two cars for an... '04 Odyssey! 8)
 

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james said:
"I changed my oil in less than 20min including cleaing up."

So? It takes me 10-15 to do it the normal way :)
hmm. So if you start the timer:
you can gather up the jack, tools and drain pan,
take all those item to the car,
jack the car up,
remove cover,
remove the plug,
drain the oil,
remove the drain pan
drain oil in jug for recycling
replace the plug,
replace the cover,
lower the car,
add oil,
and put the tools back up in 10-15 minutes :!: :!:

Thats pretty good. :roll:

I simply walk out side with the Pella and oil in hand. Raise the hood remove the dip stick, suck the oil out, add the oil lower the hood and I'm done.

While the oil is sucked out I check the tire pressure.
 

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Aaron Cake said:
You have to lift the car anyway for the filter anyway, right? Or have you figured out how to get it off without?
Filter only has to be changed once a year or 15k miles or every other oil change. On the normal schedule. Plus it only take 2qt of oil to do the change so I might start changing my oil at 5000 miles instead of 7500.

BTW it looks like if the front part of the air intake is remove (two bolts) then I could reach in with my hand and remove the filter.
 

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So what are you going to do with the "mess" after you pull the filter? Oil from the filter will be all over the cowlings under the engine. Why not change the oil in the normal manner and checks everything (cv boots, tie rod ends, etc.) at the same time.........Just a thought. :twisted:
 

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I have cut an antifreeze bottle into a "scoop" that I hold under the filter as it comes off. Catches the spill. No muss, no fuss.

To each his own, I say.
 

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Holicow said:
It is a canister with a pump (like a bike pump) with a long thin tube that goes down the dipstick tube into the oilpan. Warm up car, insert tube, pump it about 20 times and wait 5-10 min, and you have all the oil in the bottle.
What about the sludge and other crap that sits at the bottom of the oil pan? One advantage of a drain plug is that it removes that sludge too.
 

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What about the sludge and other crap that sits at the bottom of the oil pan? One advantage of a drain plug is that it removes that sludge too.
That's what you have an oil filter for...

If it isn't mobile in the oil (hmm..that's almost a pun), it isn't going to come out when you drain it through the drain hole. If it is mobile, the oil filter will take care of it.

If you really want a clean oil pan, it requires removing the pan to do it, and I don't think you want to do that every time you change the oil, right? :wink:
 

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IMHO, if you find "sludge" in a Honda engine you have a serious problem.
 
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