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Going to east coast of US at the end of the year. Trip will be 4-5 weeks - coming from Australia via Hawaii.

Suggestions for technically interesting things to see?

This is what itinery looks like currently

Hawaii

- Pearl Harbour
- Red Hill
- Volcano tour

Chicago

- Museum of Science and Industry
- Field Museum
- Michigan Avenue
- Willis Tower (formerly Sears Tower)
- Christmas Markets
- Magnificent mile lights at night (Michigan Ave)
- Chicago astronomy museum?

Detroit

- Henry Field
- Walter P. Chrysler museum
- Ypsilanti Automotive Heritage museum
- Holocaust memorial centre
- Yankee air museum
- Gilmore car museum

Niagara

- Niagara Falls
- Power Station

New York

- Ground Zero museum workshop
- 9/11 tribute centre
- New York public library
- High line walkway
- Straten Island ferry
- Intrepid sea, air & space museum
- Cradle of Aviation museum
- Statue of Liberty
- American Museum of Natural History
- Brooklyn Bridge
- George Washington Bridge
- Empire State
- Rockefeller centre
- Ellis Island

Philadelphia

- Rodin Museum
- Philadelphia Art Gallery

Washington

- National Air and Space Museum
- Steven F. Udvar–Hazy centre
- National Museum of Natural Science
- WhiteHouse/Pentagon etc

Kill Devil Hills

- Wright Brothers memorial
- Cape Hatteras Lighthouse

Florida (Orlando)

- Kennedy Space Centre
- Legoland


Thanks for any suggestions.
 

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wow thats quite a list! For Chicago, call ahead for the MSI to see if the mine shaft is open-thats a nice part of the experience. You also have Navy Pier. Id recommend 2 boat tours-1 is on the odyssey (dinner cruise or midnight cruise) and the other is the historic chicago cruise (smaller boat). both are weather permiting but give wonderful sky line views. For Niagara, make sure to see the canada side of the falls! there is lots to do on that side as well (casinos, ect). Very fun!
For Washington, id recommend Arlington natnl cemetery. Its hit or miss for some-but if you allow the sights of the park to sink in, and appreciate what it stands for it can be awe inspiring/very moving.
 

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There is a lot of Civic War stuff in VA. Then you got James Town in Williams burg and Luray Caverns just to name a few. Ive lived here all my life and I have not seen it all. Suntrust bank has an HQ in Richmond plus there is a Federal Reserve location, Capital One has an HQ in McLean. Then you got Busch Gardens in Williams burg and Kings Dominion in Doswel. :)
 

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I'll be in Honolulu when you pass through. If you need anything while you're there, send me a PM.
 

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- mid-Atlantic insight meet. Manassas VA, 04 October. !!!

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Consider historic Boston - USS CONSTITUTION (or the entire Freedom Trail)

+1 for your entire list! Especially Udvar-Házy Center -several months ago three of us Insight fans visited. Always new things to learn. Never enough time. (BTW, It's free, except for parking)


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Wow! A fraction of that would be amazing!

If you go to Niagara Falls consider going 10 minutes north to Niagara-on-the-Lake. It's a wine and dine paradise with the Shaw Festival Theatre if you want to see a play. Prepare to spend $60 to $75 Cdn for pure culinary art with wine (let your waiter select the wine- they know). Memorable for foodies.
 

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Julian, I would just add that there are two sections of the Air and Space Museum in Washington. In my mind, the better and larger is out at Dulles Airport, about 25 miles out of town. See that if you can. Lots of interesting engine displays out there. Have a wonderful trip.

Would be grand if you could come by the Mid-Atlantic meet on 4 October. I see that freezin4 has already been in contact on that invitation.
 

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Nice visit list. I see you like aviation. SR-71 on the Intrepid is an aviation miracle, as well as the space shuttle.

While in Florida, if an opportunity to pass through Pensacola would happen, the Naval Aviation Museum is well worth the time. Some of the guides are WWII pilots. When I toured, an Apollo command module was open for viewing AND entry. Navy Blue Angels home base is near the museum.

Near Homestead Florida (can't remember north or south), the Coral Castle. An elderly man by himself, figured out a way to cut, lift, and place gigantic slabs of coral to build his home. Much speculation of his use of magnetic field strength to accomplish the feats.

Do you enjoy maritime technology? USS Wisconsin BB-64, last of the giant Iowa class battleships is tied up at 'Nauticus' as a museum in Norfolk Virginia. In Newport News Virginia at the 'Mariners Museum' are some portions of the Monitor, the famous Ironclad that battled the Merricmack. Communication with the Public Affairs Office at Norfolk Naval Base will provide info on possible tours of active Naval vessels serving as 'open house' for a given weekend. Occasionally the open house is a carrier.

In Hampton Virginia is the 'Virginia Air & Space Museum' with an Apollo command module available for viewing (no entry).

Colonial Williamsburg is an interesting tour of American colonial times. The technical interest is nearby in Busch Gardens, one of the highest rated amusement parks in the US.
Awesome coaster rides :)

How near the end of the year? Winter affects operating hours for Colonial Williamsburg and Busch Gardens.
 

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Skylon in Niagara Falls, Canada has a wonderful view and decent food too. I take pictures of the Falls mostly from the Canadian side. The Maid of the Mists boat ride is fun too. As is the walking tour of Cave of the Winds. Ah heck,
you could spend your entire trip around the falls if you like enough of the available activities.
Attractions in Niagara Falls

Rochester, NY 100km east of Niagara Falls has George Eastman House, Upper Falls - Browns Race District, Lower Falls, Durrand Eastman Arboritum and Charlotte Beach on Lake Ontario at the mouth of the Genesee River https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesee_River

In NYC I would recommend Metro Museum of Modern Art, Broadway, Tribecka https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TriBeCa and The East Village formally known as Greenwich Village https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenwich_Village
But it's a Big place with lots of one way streets all in the wrong place for where you want to go. It's easy to get lost, so make sure you have good maps and a gps if possible.
If you get out onto the Island " Long Island " I'd recommend you visit Fire Island, especially if you visit during the summer. I was a life guard on the eastern end of Fire Island at county Park named Smiths Point, but I like the State Park and small hamlets just east of the park on the western end of Fire Island most.

Wherever you choose, enjoy
 

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Chicago... Detroit... New York... Philadelphia... Washington... Orlando...
You won't understand America if you only stick to cities. In fact, in general, I recommend avoiding tourist traps (example: Fisherman's Wharf in SF, CA). Americans spend their lives outside the cities, in places called suburbs, so the best thing you can do is rent a car and enjoy the scenery between the locations listed. i.e. Follow highway 80 east, 5 south, etc

As for museums, I usually stick with the best. Most of them are in Washington DC (the Smithsonian Air & Space, Natural History, etc). You'll also pass by the #1 or 2 ranked national aquarium in Baltimore.
 

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You won't understand America if you only stick to cities.
Good point theAveng, but he didn't say he wanted to understand America, he asked for "Suggestions for technically interesting things to see." We just took it on ourselves to start suggesting natural sight, and other cool things.

Back on topic: Visit a Tesla Gallery or Store. http://www.teslamotors.com/ There is one inside the Montgomery Mall near DC which has convenient parking, and you can spend some time and $ helping the US economy while awaiting your test drive! (Schedule ahead of time.) :)

Atikovi and I are real close by, if you want company, let us know.

YOU WILL ENJOY!
 

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Thanks for those suggestions.

We will be in the US from about Dec 13 - Jan 16, so won't be at the meet.

I have asked for tech things to see because my family and I (wife and 9 year son) have found that our trips work best if we go to see specific things (and we all like tech things, and it means I can write material for AutoSpeed) and see the rest of the country 'along the way' as it were.

We hired a car in the UK for a month and drove to all the things that interested us, and as I say, seeing a lot of other things along the way.

In Germany last year we use the trains to get around, but again starting with a specific list of things to see and absorbing the ambience of the country along the way.

AutoSpeed - Germany Diary, Part 1

AutoSpeed - Germany Diary, Part 2

AutoSpeed - Germany Diary, Part 3

AutoSpeed - Germany Diary, Part 4

AutoSpeed - Germany Diary, Part 5

I did a similar (but shorter) series based on our UK trip.

Down the track we have an idea of doing another US trip, but aiming for the west coast, and the internal mesa and steppe arid landscapes (I used to be a geography teacher).

So that probably gives a better idea of the things we're looking for.
 

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Julian,

Your Germany diary is fascinating. Noticed you were impressed with stationary steam engines.

In Rhode Island, south of West Warwick is a 'Wireless and Steam' museum cared for by enthusiasts who run the equipment each fall during their 'Yankee Steam Up'. I have personally seen the pristeen condition of the equipment which includes a Marconi Spark Transmitter. Here's the link to their site: Wireless and Steam Museum.

Geography teacher, interesting. Everglades Florida ? Air boat rides are fantastic.
 

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Since you plan to visit Pearl Harbor, if you have time, you might enjoy visiting the U.S.S. Missouri, the battleship on which the Japanese surrender document was signed at the end of WWII. Apparently, it has very nice teak decks :) Also at Pearl Harbor is the U.S.S. Bowfin, a submarine open for touring.

I also enjoyed reading your Germany diaries. I recall being blown away by the technical museum in Münich when I visited as a college student 50 years ago, so it sounds like it has remained excellent.
 

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We're a bit stuck on how to do Hawaii. Want to see active volcano, Pearl Harbor, seismic observatory - have 4-5 days total.

Any suggestions on how to do it?
 

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We're a bit stuck on how to do Hawaii. Want to see active volcano, Pearl Harbor, seismic observatory - have 4-5 days total.
I suggest flying into Honolulu from Australia, visiting Pearl Harbor, flying from Honolulu to Hawaii Island, visiting Hawaii Volcanoes National Park, and then flying on to the U.S. mainland from Hawaii Island rather than returning to Honolulu unless the cost of flying out of Honolulu is considerably less.

I'm not familiar with the seismic observatory. Maybe you mean the Hawaiian Volcano Observatory which is in Hawaii Volcanoes National Park.

Almost all Honolulu hotels are in the Waikiki tourist area. You could avoid renting a car and dealing with Honolulu's terrible traffic by taking an airport shuttle bus to and from your Waikiki hotel and then a bus to and from Pearl Harbor. But if you want to see Oahu's North Shore where surf might be big (winter is the North Shore surf season), snorkel at Hanauma Bay, or see other sites of natural beauty, you'd need to rent a car. If so, don't leave anything valuable in your car when you park because thieves love to prey on unsuspecting tourists in rental cars.

The Hilo airport is much closer to Hawaii Volcanoes National Park (45 minutes) than is the Kona airport (3 hours). But the Kona airport probably has a bigger selection of flights to the mainland than does Hilo. However, renting a car at the Hilo airport and dropping it off at the Kona airport might incur a hefty drop-off charge. If so, it might be better to fly to Kona from Honolulu so you can pick up and drop off a rental car there. The drive from Kona to Hawaii Volcanoes National Park is either around the south tip of the island (southernmost point in the U.S.) or over the saddle between the two large volcanic mountains, Mauna Kea and Mauna Loa. You could go one way and return the other way for variety.

The most convenient place to stay is at the Hawaii Volcano House inside the National Park. Rooms on the crater rim start at a breathtaking $285/night. Roughing it in a cabin in the Namakanipaio Campground not far from the Volcano House would set you back $80/night. I've stayed in these cabins at least twice and have enjoyed the pseudo-camping experience, but then I enjoy backpacking in the Swedish Arctic, so my tastes are probably not mainstream. Other lodging choices are available just outside the National Park in Volcano Village.
 

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I'd like to read about that if you have any extra time for a post or two.
Nothing much to report at this stage.

I know the people who produce this controller which although expensive, would be superb. I could control it via a PWM (ie variable voltage) output from the MoTeC that could be fully mapped (in the MoTeC) to provide appropriate assist and regen, and the electric motor could be potentially over-rated by (say) 100 per cent for short periods.

Batteries, and battery management system, I am uncertain about.

In part I am not sure what route to take because I want to see how effective the turbo / new engine management are. If boost is strong at (say) 2000 rpm then the electric motor would really only be needed for short-term acceleration, and in that situation I might set battery capacity goal as being suitable for 15kW for 15 seconds. (or use super capacitors?) On the other hand, if assist is going to be needed at 2000 rpm in fifth gear to climb hills, then that required battery capacity will change.

Because I no longer have a DC/DC converter, the whole volume of the hybrid box will be available for controller and energy storage devices - I don't want to use up any more room than that.

None of this will happen for at least 6 - 12 months... I think it will take that long to get the car optimised with new engine management. Got to map fuel, ignition, idle speed, cold start, accel/decel fuel and ignition, VTEC, EGR, water/air intercooler pump control for very best compromise of power and economy.
 
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