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Just seen this on the news.

Good news for us Insight owners hopefully.

<100g emission (Insight 80g) is now tax free!

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It's no change for me then as my year 2000 Insight with LMPG of 85.2 is still going to be £110 a year to tax. I am lost for words !!!. I can see that it just is not going to be my year. Later this week I'm in court for photographing a speed camera (covertly sited) photographing me. And charged with driving without due care and attention at 8mph holding a camera/phone. If bad luck comes in threes then I guess my battery pack is going to fail soon,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
 

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More good news for some UK Insight owners!

You can claim back the price paid on your current tax disc as well as getting a free new one!!

Cars registered on or after 1st March 2001 which fall into Band A (CO2 emissions up to 100 g/km) will attract a nil rate of duty.


From DVLA FAQ

http://www.dvla.gov.uk/vehicles/Changes ... le_tax.htm

3) My tax rate has been reduced because of the Budget. Can I apply for a new disc at the reduced rate and then claim a refund on my current disc. How long will it take?

Yes. There is nothing to stop you applying for a refund on your current disc and relicensing at the new reduced rate from March 23rd. You can get a refund for each full calendar month still to run on the licence disc at the time you apply. If you require a refund on your current disc please use application form V14. V14’s are available for download from the forms page or from any Post Office® branch that issue tax discs and DVLA Local Offices. Your refund should be sent to you within 3 – 6 weeks.

So got to the post office and apply for a new tax disc today, this should be issued free. Then apply for a refund on your current one.

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Thank you for the information about the VED refund. I was condidering doing it. But now I have printed off the V14 form and I will be down that post office in the morning to claim some money back off the Chancelor.

I think that the zero rate VED may also increase the value of our cars slightly.

I will report back if I hit any problems

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Just a note to say some of the post office software wasn't updated today 23rd with the new tax info, so i couldn't get a free disc today. I checked with the DVLA helpline, and they confirmed they were aware of this issue with some post offices. It might take a few days to filter down to your local PO.
 

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Lean Machine said:
Later this week I'm in court for photographing a speed camera (covertly sited) photographing me. And charged with driving without due care and attention at 8mph holding a camera/phone.
Why were you taking a Picture of a Speed camera? What was the purpose of doing that?

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Just to let you all know that on Friday morning the post office computers were working OK and accepted my request for a zero VED. I pulled the refund form (V14) off the internet and have sent it off with the old disc to the DVLA. It was very straight forward.

It says that they will only refund in whole months so get moving if you want to save a months refund. Also DVLA will take up to six weeks to send you the refund, and I believe there is a time limit on refunds of this type.

Thanks for the information

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I doubt if it will do any good but I have just written to Gordon Brown complaining of the ill conceived logic of charging £110 for the same car that when registered a few months later qualifies for a nil rate.
I realize there has to be a starting point but this whole concept of reducing emissions was spawned by the hybrids and should be recognized as such by rewarding the early adopters and encouraging others into them.Even if the budget of 2001 laid down the start date of emissions over engine size there is no reason he shouldn't/couldn't make an exception for a few 2000 year cars considering they are the benchmark for the low figures on his scale.
Short of electrics the Insights are the only cars capable of reaching these low CO2 g/km figures.
Maybe some of you UK owners could fire off an E-Mail as well,nothing ventured nothing gained,oh yes while the later cars might increase slightly in value the early ones will drop with this duty burden.

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How good does it feel walking into the post office & seeing the faces of the other customers when they hear you are getting charged £0 for road tax?
 

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3 vehicles and not a penny in excise duty.

Happily my wife and I have 3 vehicles between us.

2 UK Spec Insights and my Electric Lithium-Ion powered AC drive Bedford Rascal, that's also nil excise duty, and doesn't even need an MOT!.

http://www.solarvan.co.uk

It really hacks people off when they find out.

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I'm sorry for the UK Insight owners on here who registered before 2001 and have to pay, that's seems bizzare.
 

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I'm sorry for the UK Insight owners on here who registered before 2001 and have to pay, that's seems bizzare

Tell me about it, I missed the free boat by eleven months, still haven't heard from Mr Brown but will argue the toss when he responds with a negative.
I believe i'm correct in saying the Insight is the only fuel based car in this nil category,the others being pure electrics.
Is this supposed to encourage auto makers into building vehicles to fall in this category?seems unlikely since the smallest,cleanest normal car at the moment is still outside it and most others don't even have a chance.
Only a specialist type like the Insight can achieve these low emissions and its not for the masses.

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Other cars in group A. Nil VED

The diesel smart car is also in the <100g A group it is 90g/km.

Not sure exactly which model/year that is.

Insight is 80g/km

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The diesel smart car is also in the <100g A group it is 90g/km.

Yes but since we are talking UK,is the diesel smart a legal or grey import? The last time I checked they were not sold in this country unless this has changed.

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Hi there,
I was wondering if there was ever anymore developments on the pre 2001 insight car tax exemption?
I still find it so crazy that year 2000 insight owners are left out.

Also I wish that the 100% enhanced capital allowances for low emission cars also included buying a second hand insight. Why only NEW????

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/capital_allowances/cars.htm#2

Has anyone else noticed the fact that the VCA have removed the insight from the database?

http://www.vcacarfueldata.org

I drive a diesel van around in my job and wish I could get my boss to change it for an insight. Sadly I couldn't quite afford one myself!

Glad to see the Insight UK'ers are just as enthusiastic as the US counterparts.

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Hi flipdee, Nothing positive came from my letter to Gordon Brown complaining of the omission of the 2000 year cars in the UK for the nil tax rating .
The response was the standard one mentioning the ruling created to base taxation on engine size and then from April 2001 on emissions with the excuse emission data was not available from all manufacturers before this date.This seems reasonable but since the Insight is the only petrol car in this category for the past six years and the data was available from Honda at the time one would hope he could be a little generous and waive the ruling for the few 2000 year cars out there.
But alas nothing has been forthcoming
So in a nut shell we owners with the 2000 Insights are up the creek,out in the cold or just plain buggered! :(

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Thats a real shame, how ironic that we are now in a "climate crisis" according to our govt and the only actual car out there which I would class as a practical environmentally friendly one is not only discontinued but forgotten about by the powers that be.

I suppose £110 per year in car tax would be re-couped back in fuel savings at least but it is annoying none the less.

Damn, if only I could get the hold of one now!

Regards,

Jonny
 
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