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I'm new to INsight and this formum which seems really good. 06MT/AC on second tank of gas and 60-65 mpg on a hilly 20 mi commute. So far I've learned I need to check my temperatrue sensor in front of the radiator as to why it won't go into autostop, right?- and see if it will come on if I turn off the climate control?? - anything else? The second thing I noticed was that the upshift light seems to come on at the right time for all shift points, but I have never seen a downshift light come on. Is this normal? New car, you know, even if that is pretty useless, still looking for bugs. Thanks for any help. :roll:
 

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Yeah, it's normal. I've actually gotten into the habbit of beating the upshift arrow to the shift :lol: . You won't see the downshift unless your really in the wrong gear (ie 30 mph in 5th uphill or driving up some serious grades).
 

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Actually that brings up something that has been bugging me. Most of the time I use the upshift light as an indication of when to shift up, but I rarely see the downshift light except in pretty extreme uphill conditions.

But wouldn't you think that the operation of the lights should be symmetric? If there is some range of conditions over which your current gear is acceptable, then wouldn't you think that the indicators would be set at the ends of the range, and that you would see both the upshift and downshift indicator just as frequently if you're driving correctly? If you see what I mean...

I'm thinking that if you're driving the car "right" then you shouldn't be seeing the upshift light, either. That means upshifting (much) earlier: Drive like a great-grandmother, not just a grandmother... :lol:
 

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Yes, I see, but that discussion is going in the other direction--ignore the upshift light and run the engine faster.

What I'm asking is this: If the downshift indicator rarely comes on under our "normal" driving conditions, then why does the upshift indicator come on so often?

My proposal is that the smart engineers at Honda designed the algorithms so that both should come on equally often, and that if we're not driving so that's true, then we're not driving correctly. This means two things:

- Upshift even earlier, to reduce the number of times you see the upshift light.
- Downshift even later, to increase the number of times you see the downshift light.
 
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