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I am driving this Insight now...

Two days ago when I did @jeffffej 's LiBCM install he also detailed the car for me and washed the engine bay, and gave me a new rear-view mirror.

This Insight still needs work, but it's driving pretty well, and will keep me on the road while I fix my other car.
This is a great car, I was impressed, you've bought it far!
 

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Yesterday actually, a big shout out to Acrazyjohnny for helping me with an evap solenoid replacement (he did most of the work, let’s be honest) a rear hatch cam replacement and some rear brake adjustment work. I’ve got a frozen adjuster on the driver side rear, so I sense a parts order coming on.

I got a second look at (although not yet a drive of) his new Silverstone 5 MT. Looks pretty sweet. It was owned by a forum member who passed away and a lot of the big jobs have already been taken care of. Mileage is either around 131k or 161k, I forget which, but he’s back in the game, which brings the number of central/north Jersey Insighters with whom I am acquainted to four (all within about a 35 min. radius).
 

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I took a little trip to Attica Ohio this weekend to get a motor, then to Indianapolis to pickup my daughters Insight, then back to Tennessee. With some help from my neighbor, my son and I got the motor dropped into this Insight and up on the lift. I'll be removing the strut towers next, replacing the clutch with a good used one, and rebuilding the transmission. I'll be in somewhat of a rush, my '55 Nash Ambassador will be parked outside until I get this wrapped up and that car probably shouldn't be out in the elements for long.
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Quite a busy boy. Do you find it easier to install a motor/transmission from top or from bottom?
 

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I took a little trip to Attica Ohio this weekend to get a motor, then to Indianapolis to pickup my daughters Insight, then back to Tennessee. With some help from my neighbor, my son and I got the motor dropped into this Insight and up on the lift. I'll be removing the strut towers next, replacing the clutch with a good used one, and rebuilding the transmission. I'll be in somewhat of a rush, my '55 Nash Ambassador will be parked outside until I get this wrapped up and that car probably shouldn't be out in the elements for long. View attachment 98576
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Is that citrus a parts car? It looks a little worse for wear. If it isn't, I commend you for keeping another citrus on the road!
 

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Is that citrus a parts car? It looks a little worse for wear. If it isn't, I commend you for keeping another citrus on the road!
It was sold to me as a parts car, and I made an effort to get it back on the road. Anything and everything under that car that isn't aluminum looks like it was pulled out of a river, it's pretty rough. I had it running, but I sold it to someone in Western Tennessee years ago - he sold it back after replacing the motor and attempting to make it a daily driver. When I got it back from him, the motor was in the trunk of the car - so I parked it for a while. I'll be replacing the front end strut towers and the the rear end. all parts I removed from a salvage yard a couple of years ago.
 

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Finished grid charging my buddy's battery this week. Ended at 170v. It self discharged down to 155.7v over the course of 8 days. Not super encouraging :/

Had my GenesisOne set to discharge it down to 120v and cycle it but I came back and it was at 1.5 volts... for the whole pack. Not sure why it blasted past the cutoff point but I hope this pack isn't donzeo. The pack in my car sat at less than 20v for several YEARS and I managed to get it back into service after a few cycles.
 

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It almost looks like you have a solar panel roof on it. Makes me long for the day when there will be PV vinyl wrapping. :)
 

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@jeffffej looks great! funny, today I was chatting with an Amazon driver (helping him out with a flat) who had done the same thing to his roof, and I wondered how it would look on my red! He had a sunroof in the middle of the roof. I have the sunroof; have not installed it yet.

On NiMH matters...

Finally got a chance to look at a log of NiMH channel data that I was collecting when the pack threw the IMA light and shut down the IMA.

It appears that one of the cells has developed rapid self discharge. When it is balanced with the rest, there is plenty of power. If left to sit, it discharges enough that at lower states of pack charge it has already has already gone to zero and in this case it reversed, the IMA noticed (but took its sweet time!) and then shut it down.

This capture showed that about 2 kW of assist was being applied as the problem channel's voltage was dropping. When the difference between it and the highest voltage channel reached 1.0 V, it lowered the current for about 1/2 second which maintained that difference, then appears to have switched to aiming for constant power output. Exactly five seconds later the bad channel had dropped to 1.59V below the best, and the car was pulling about 14A through what was obviously a reversed cell in that channel, when it shut down the IMA.

14 amps through a fully reversed cell is not cool.

This is the raw data, over about 1.5 seconds. ch3 is the highest voltage channel, ch8 the lowest. These numbers are raw; for volts, ad 500 to a channel number and then multiply by 0.01. For example, 988 is readlly (988 + 500) = 1488 which when multipied by 0.01 is 14.88 volts.

The column "i" represents current. To calculate it, subtract 832, then multiply by 0.1228 to get actual current. Negative is assist, positive is regen.

time (ms), ch1, ch2, ch3, ch4, ch5, ch6, ch7, ch8, ch9, c10, i, mux, mux value
1806352, 988, 985, 992, 975, 981, 978, 978, 834, 983, 982, 721, 2, 3
1806451, 987, 983, 992, 974, 981, 977, 977, 834, 983, 982, 719, 3, 787
1806552, 988, 983, 991, 974, 980, 978, 976, 834, 982, 982, 720, 4, 764
1806652, 987, 984, 991, 975, 980, 978, 976, 832, 982, 982, 721, 4, 764
1806752, 986, 983, 991, 974, 980, 978, 976, 833, 981, 982, 721, 5, 1638
1806852, 986, 982, 991, 973, 980, 977, 976, 832, 981, 981, 719, 6, 793
1806952, 982, 983, 990, 973, 979, 975, 977, 831, 981, 977, 720, 7, 876
1807052, 985, 983, 990, 972, 978, 975, 975, 831, 979, 979, 722, 0, 795 <== last sample before IMA throws code and shuts down.
1807152, 994, 983, 992, 975, 980, 979, 980, 837, 985, 986, 732, 1, 795 note difference of 159 which is equivalent to 1.59 voltgs.
1807252, 994, 992,1001, 986, 991, 990, 992, 854, 996, 998, 749, 1, 795 This was FIVE SECONDS after pack noticed it drop below 1.0/cell.
1807352, 1006,1003,1012, 997,1002,1002,1003, 878,1009,998, 770, 2, 4
1807453, 1019,1016,1024,1009,1013,1013,1015, 900,1009,1012, 788, 3, 788
1807552, 1032,1030,1037,1023,1026,1026,1027, 900,1022,1025, 807, 4, 764
1807652, 1039,1036,1043,1029,1033,1033,1027, 926,1031,1031, 816, 4, 764
1807753, 1048,1046,1054,1041,1045,1033,1033, 945,1037,1040, 835, 5,1631


Also, for giggles, I took the trip data from a 700 mile drive and calculated power in watts (sampling about 10x/second) and then sorted it numerically and plotted it. The result is that you can see how much time the car spent in various degrees of assist (negative power), zero or slight charge/discharge, and regen. The x axis is a sample counter, the y axis is power in watts.

I am not sure how this compares to a car with a perfectly balanced pack, but a plot like this, compared to a baseline, could help tell how much one is able to get from their IMA pack. Not a lot of chances to use assist and regen on a long drive in the Northeast.

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@jeffffej looks great! funny, today I was chatting with an Amazon driver (helping him out with a flat) who had done the same thing to his roof, and I wondered how it would look on my red! He had a sunroof in the middle of the roof. I have the sunroof; have not installed it yet.
Thanks man. I think it accents the car nicely.

Good luck with your IMA stuff.
 
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