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Hey I was wondering what you guys would suggest when your buying a used insight?

I was thinking that looking at the LMPG could tell you if it's been beaten on or not, but besides that and normal things like taking it to shop and lifting it to let them check it out, what special things should i check on the insight?
 

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The LMPG is not always a good indicator of abuse. It just means the previous owner was not as concerned about mpg. But basically look over the car like you would any other used car.
 

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The Insight Central buyer's guide post :D

Hi Bartizek

There's been a LOT of interest in buying an Insight and many posts over the past several months. Something to do with the price of gas I guess :?: ;)

Here's ten (10 :!: ) of the best (also note some dissenting views expressed in these threads)

HTH! :)


What to look out for when buying a used insight
viewtopic.php?t=3410


New guy, new to hybrids, need some help...
http://www.insightcentral.net/forum/vie ... php?t=3381


Urgent Help Needed re. purchase
http://www.insightcentral.net/forum/vie ... php?t=3130


What's the one thing you wish you had known?
http://www.insightcentral.net/forum/vie ... php?t=3311


Tell me all the wonderful things
http://www.insightcentral.net/forum/vie ... php?t=3227


Considering purchasing a new Insight
http://www.insightcentral.net/forum/vie ... php?t=3277


Rationalizations for Hybrids
http://www.insightcentral.net/forum/vie ... php?t=3151


Ready to Buy, can't find one
http://www.insightcentral.net/forum/vie ... php?t=2840


Things to look for when buying a used Insight
http://www.insightcentral.net/forum/vie ... php?t=2794


Don't buy an insight from a chevy dealership
http://www.insightcentral.net/forum/vie ... php?t=3160

Been counting :?: :p here's your bonus (#11)

Buying advice...
http://www.insightcentral.net/forum/vie ... php?t=2002

But wait :!: You now receive this double bonus link only available in this special post for a limited time... :p (Edit: Ok I lied. ;) )

How many sold each year since 2000?
http://www.insightcentral.net/forum/vie ... php?t=2835


Whew :!: I'm through now :!:

HTH! :)
 

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This is a great board! I'm on the verge of buying in to the insight phenomenon... So excited! Have a quick question for you all:

Can anyone foresee a problem if I buy a 2000 Honda Insight with only 17,100 miles? do you think this might mean the pack may have discharged too much or something? i will do my best to give a good test drive based on the other posts that have been listed for new buyers.

really appreciate all the work you folks have put into this site...

eric
 

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Determining the remaining service life of an IMA battery pack from the driver's seat borders on being scientific "voodoo". :p

One member even did a more scientific approach but failed to account for maximum battery current loads approaching 100 amps :!:
His 5500mAh loads failed to accurately determine the capacities of each stick. Still it was a GREAT learning experience for all :!: :D

Replacing IMA Pack Cells
http://www.insightcentral.net/forum/vie ... php?t=3413

You can do an IMA reset before the test drive (if the dealer or owner is agreeable) then pull some long hills while lugging the pack. If you had some time behind the wheel with an Insight and a "good" IMA battery pack you could get a "feel" for it's robustness. Without this experience I'm afraid this exercise will tell you little.

IMA reset proceedure (Alternately - disconnect the 12v battery for 30 sec)
http://www.insightcentral.net/encyclope ... orage.html

And there are several still undetermined "anomalies" that are probably normal, There also is a correlation to IMA batteries, their usable capacity and temperature. See:

Recal's, Forced charge, IMA Battery and Thermal mgmt - long
http://www.insightcentral.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=750

Your greatest advantage is that the remaining warranty on the pack is 3 years +- (from the date of original sale) or 80K miles. Still a few years and many miles away :!: The warranty is with the car, not the owner and no transfer is required. But as will all manufacturers, should the car have been declared a total loss in the past then all warranties are void.

HTH! :)
 

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IMHO:

- In almost every case, it's cheaper to keep the car you have now, rather than put yourself ~$20,000 into the hole (purchasing an insight, prius, or other hybrid).

As example, take my 25mpg Avenger vs. an Insight:
Avenger = $0.00 (keep it)
Insight = $20,000 tag - $1000 saved per year
That means it would take *20 years* to pay back the expense of the Insight. That means, it is cheaper for my to keep the car I currently have.

I bought my insight, not for economic reasons, but for "cool technology" reasons.
 

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Keeping an older car may be the most ethical, cost effective and environmentally sound choice, but "Man does not live by bread alone". In my case it was difficult to rationalize my decision to spend about 27,000 CDN on the Insight. My previous Honda cars had cost about 1K per year including repairs and depreciation. To match that I would have to keep the Insight for about 20 years.

Here are some additional rationalizations.

1. Repairs to older cars can get significant. My father had one lemon that cost close to 9,000 dollars in repairs in the last 2 years he owned it, prior to buying his first Honda Accord.

2. Rust grows in the seams of older cars, expanding the joints and putting stress on the spot welds. Older cars get weaker and may not have some of today’s "standard" safety features.

3. Older cars don't just cost more for gasoline, they pollute more!

4. Your occupation may require a reliable vehicle.

5. Driving an Insight or Prius makes a political/environmental statement.

6. Purchasing a fuel efficient vehicle sends a message to car manufacturers, encouraging them to make further innovations.

In my case the aluminum body, low production numbers and hatch back two seater styling were the primary motivators.
 

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Buy an Insight!
In three years, I have saved $10,000 versus driving my 01 Nissan Frontier CC 90,000 miles. When I bought the Insight for $7400, I could have sold my Nissan for $12000 and put $4800 in the bank. Add the $10,000 to that with 3% simple interest to be conservative.

That is not to mention the environmental impact:

Frontier @30,000miles/yr. x 23 tons per year = 69 TONS Greenhouse gas

Insight @30,000miles/yr. x 6 tons per year = 18 TONS Greenhouse gas
 

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lonox 1,

funny, im looking to buy an insight as well
i also have a frontier with about 78k on it

my rational is to buy a used insight that way
im not using my frontier @ 2o miles/gall
as my daily commuter

i can keep the pick up forever because
it will last forever the way i maintain it

how many miles did your insight have on it
when you bought it?

did you have the battery replaced with new 150 k warantee?
 

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My Insight had 62,000 on it. I now have 145,000.
Yes, last September the IMA light came on at 137,000. I left it at the dealer and when they called that evening, the new battery and components were on their way.

I think I'm going to sell the Frontier as I usually put less than 100 miles a month on it now that my son is away at college.
 

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I bought it about a month before gas prices started shooting up. That's when the Insight prices started rising up.

The fuel savings for 90,000 miles that I estimated was about how many miles I will have put on it by April 22. That is the "birthday" of 3 years.
 
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