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Potential buyer - advice on 2004 with 128k mi?

3.1K views 13 replies 8 participants last post by  racer26  
#1 ·
Hi all,

New to the forum. Actually 'owned' (was leasing) a 2010 Insight that was recently totaled by a semi. I'm scrambling for a used car to replace it and was resigned to settling for something much less fuel efficient. Then I came upon this add:

Honda 2004 Insight CVT silver automatic with A/C low miles

I was looking for a car with lower mileage, but I also don't drive much (I'd only had 20,000 mi on my previous Insight) so I could accept the higher mileage here if I could be confident it still had a decent amount of life left, preferably 5 or more years, conservative estimate 50 - 75,000 more miles, but probably less than that.

What do people think? Assuming it was not neglected, would this last that long? The current owner did his own basic maintenance, but it has had two owners before him.
 
#2 ·
Seems to me like he is trying to flip it. I would ask him how long he had owned it and it the title is in his name. I doubt it is. If it isnt i would stray away and wait for something else.
 
#3 ·
As we all know these are very reliable cars with the biggest problem being the IMA battery. With this vehicle having a verifiable new one that takes a lot of it's potential negatives out of the picture.

128K is still fairly low mileage for the price. I've seen those with 50-75K or less selling for 8K and up.

So while he might be a flipper or perhaps a short term owner, his asking price isn't out of line in this era of $4 per gallon gas. It might be worth a trip or phone call to the Honda dealer to verify it's local history if any, plus ask how much it would be for an overall inspection. If they do find some defects there might be some potential bargaining chips to negotiate on the price.
 
#4 ·
As long as title is in his name, and is not a salvage rebuilt title (carfax), and he actually has the receipts for the ima battery change, its not a bad deal. The only thing that i noticed, is that the engine and interior is super clean (steam clean engine), meaning the guy is probably illegally using a dealer's license to sell it...
 
#5 ·
I checked it out today and also got the autocheck.

Positives: looks clean, title checks out, battery receipt checks out. Seems to drive ok.

Negatives: Autocheck (here) shows 2 accidents and says 6 owners but I think it is actually 4. One accident he described as a fender bender, that's the most recent one autocheck describes as 'minor'. Other accident I'm not sure about.

Also, no maintenance records, owner claims to do maintenance himself. From how he described it, he seemed to know what he was talking about, how to take particular care of the car, etc. Seemed to be a hobbyist. He was taking care of the car for his father, or so the story goes.

Thoughts?
 
#9 ·
Meaning you have to do the final deal with her at the table. No proxy handovers. Those are loaded with problems.
 
#10 ·
If you have the VIN number you ought to call the dealer where any work was done and see if they may tell you what work was done. (Your going to be taking the car there etc etc.) If you call another dealer they normally won't bother to look it up in the national system.

You can input the VIN at the following link to see if there is any outstanding maintenance recall work that is outstanding. (Probably none but it's worth the effort.)

Safety Recalls | Honda Safety | Honda Owners Site
 
#14 ·
That looks to me like a fine car. 5-7 more years should be no problem at all, provided you keep up on maintenance.

Most likely problem I foresee: with only 10k miles per year based on your estimate, you likely won't be exercising the battery as much as you should, and could lead to its premature death.

I wish everyone posting used car ads would post that many pictures.

Consider this: there are several MY2000 insights with 500k+ miles on them, still on the road. This car, a MY2004, at ~125k mi, is comparatively a baby.