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Questions about Grid Chargers

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#1 ·
Just wanted to start a new thread about what the best grid charger was out there at the time of this posting. I'm guessing there have been some advances.

My current battery has about 70k on it, no IMA light but does seem to discharge at a rapid rate with city driving.

What are your suggestions and choices?
 
#2 · (Edited)
Genesis GC01 / Hybrid Revolt Smart Grid Charger




Best one? No contest. The Genesis GC01 invented by Mike Dabrowski, but now sold by Matt at Hybrid Revolt Grid Charger : HybridReVolt: Hybrid Battery Repair

When used in conjunction with the discharger, my GC01 is indispensable, helping keep five Insights on the road.

There are others available as well, and free plans that allow you to build your own (thanks again to Mike Dabrowski) on 99mpg.com http://99mpg.com/Data/resources/downloads/gridchargerstuff/basicgridchargerv1.pdf

My 0.02 worth,
Tim
 
#4 ·
Best one? No contest. The Genesis GC01 invented by Mike Dabrowski, but now sold by Matt at Hybrid Revolt Grid Charger : HybridReVolt: Hybrid Battery Repair

When used in conjunction with the discharger, my GC01 is indispensable, helping keep five Insights on the road.

There are others available as well, and free plans that allow you to build your own (thanks again to Mike Dabrowski) on 99mpg.com http://99mpg.com/Data/resources/downloads/gridchargerstuff/basicgridchargerv1.pdf

My 0.02 worth,
Tim
800$ holy crap! I'm sure for someone with 5 insights it's worth it, but I don't see myself personally justifying that cost with only one. Is it really twice as superior as hybrid automotives'?
 
#3 ·
Hybrid Automotive one I fitted at the weekend was very good quality for the money and a totally professional package with all the bits except the power cord in the box. Online fitting instructions and photos took me through the process safely.

It's my first charger and pretty much plug and play once the wiring loom was fitted. LED meters are bright and easy to read. So I was able to leave the charger in the boot and pop outside to check on the progress being made without opening the car.

Best of all the car is working perfectly right now for very little money. I'll be keen to by a discharger from them once they've got it sussed out.
 
#7 ·
Mountain Driver pretty much covered it. What else do you want to know? Both will charge your battery. It's just how much you are willing to be involved in the process and how flexible you want to be. I've used both types. I'll try to answer any specific questions you have.

Sam
 
#9 · (Edited)
2nd best: Jeff652 hybridautomotive. He now has discharge capable units. Manual monitoring. I have one of his grid chargers, I like it a lot. Quite affordable. DIY install, instructions with photos on Jeff's site. Talk to him.
 
#11 ·
Better? Not sure I agree with you on that one ;). Ask him what brand power supplies he uses. His customers probably don't even know because he rivets the enclosure shut. They can't get inside to look at what they purchased. We still use the Mean Well power supplies from Mike's original design, I am pretty sure we are the only sub $500 charger/reconditioning system that does.

Yes, he does have a video and we only have pictures. Most are more concerned with product quality vs. instruction format. Our customers like the photos, they tell us they appreciate being able to lay the iPad/laptop on the car and work through the process at their own pace. Videos are coming, but we have to finish the rebranding first. Patents and Trademarks are expensive :cool:

I'd recommend any potential customer read this to help compare why our products are different from the other simple chargers on the market:
Prolong Grid Chargers - Hybrid Automotive - Extending the life of your hybrid


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#13 · (Edited)
Jeff,

Adding the following options to your excellent grid charger may be a win-win for your revenue and for the customers "experience"

1. An extra digit in the DVM display to so 10th's of volts can be observed.

2. Test Points to read output with an external multi-meter. (some sort of cover or recessed access would be needed to shield/protect these when not in use). Even a precise voltage divider could be used to scale the 180V to 18.0V at the test point for safety of Darwin's children.

3. Connector for external load for discharging. This connector would have a built in switch so that plugging in the discharger would open the HV DC power supply output. Integrate with 7 below for a really convenient way to discharge.

4. Current and Voltage display on the top of the box for better visibility when running.

5. HV output on/off switch

6. Fan output on/off switch

7. Conventional AC receptacle for literally plugging in a table light as a test load.

I would have paid for these a la carte options if given the opportunity at purchase time. Please consider these.